Best value for a vintage rosewood dreadnaught

[Guildguy1965]

Hi Guild Guy I'd b surprised if anybody here has that info at hand except possibly member Hans Moust who has Westerly production records, but I seem to recall that even those don't always have the info. I don't think I've ever seen a breakdown of number produced by finish color.

But he can be reached here, just to make sure:

GuitarsGalore

Yea,
I will reach out to Hans. I like to believe that all guild fans have a high knowledge of history. I know numbers on colors is a crap shoot at best.Thanks for replying.

 

[Guildguy1965]

I’m partial to Westerly’s myself, but will also make exceptions for Hoboken

Ditto!

Was the ice-tea burst possibly just a Tacoma offering?

mine is westerly built. With this tobacco or iced tea burst finish. So definitely used prior to fender (corona) and Tacoma years as well. Mine is 1997 model year.

 

[Guildguy1965]

looks like your burst is lighter than I have seen before on a DV-52. Guitar prices are going up, "just like everything".

Yes,
Unfortunately they are. I paid more than I wanted to. But I’m a softie for westerly and older Guilds.

 

[Heath]

I have one Guild that’s not a Hoboken or Westerly. It’s a Tacoma D55 that is a great instrument. I’m not going to lie though, after Tacoma, when they ditched the paper labels in favor of stamps on the neck block, just seems…. Less magical? Not a knock on the quality of the instruments at all btw… but I digress

 

[chazmo]

^ Heath, I'm not sure what you mean. There are paper labels for all Guild eras. ??? If you're referring to Oxnard's branded neck-block plates, then that's only been going on for a short while.

 

[Westerly Wood]

i could have just settled the "best value in a rosewood dread" debate by typing: Guild...

 

[wileypickett]

I saw that ad for the burst DV52 and bookmarked it (like I need another one!). When I went back an hour later it was already sold!

Tell us more about it when you get your paws on it.

Congrats!

 

[adorshki]

Was the ice-tea burst possibly just a Tacoma offering?

I've never seen it as a formal finish color name from anywhere but there, although it's possible it was a new name on an old formula as we've seen before. But only 3 types of 'burst out of Westerly at that time if one includes and the Cherry which was only "standard" on electrics. For that matter think the "Tobacco" was only standard on electrics, too.

Ditto! Mine is westerly built. With this tobacco or iced tea burst finish. So definitely used prior to fender (corona) and Tacoma years as well. Mine is 1997 model year.

All DV52's were Westerly built, see my comment above re standard color names, "Iced Tea" (as a name) doesn't appear anywhere but in Tacoma catalogs, and it's pretty darn light. Think yours will turn out to be an exceptionally light Antique Burst, that was the standard 'burst on flattops in '97.

What does your label say?

I'll betcha a buck it says "DV52-AB" (Or maybe "Ant. Burst") (Only a buck 'cause I ain't a gambling man. )

 

[fronobulax]

I have one Guild that’s not a Hoboken or Westerly. It’s a Tacoma D55 that is a great instrument. I’m not going to lie though, after Tacoma, when they ditched the paper labels in favor of stamps on the neck block, just seems…. Less magical? Not a knock on the quality of the instruments at all btw… but I digress

New Hartford guitars had paper labels. What we missed at the time was the matching headstock stamp.

 

[adorshki]

New Hartford guitars had paper labels. What we missed at the time was the matching headstock stamp.

Actually they stopped stamping the headstocks in Tacoma.

 

[kostask]

Iced tea burst is a Gibson name, originally, for a variation on the Les Paul's bursts. Lemon burst is another one, and there are like 15 or so different names for the various bursts that Gibson makes, from Gibson themselves. Some are really long, like Tequila Sunrise burst, and others are just called different names by Gibson fans (like cherry burst).

 

[Heath]

^ Heath, I'm not sure what you mean. There are paper labels for all Guild eras. ??? If you're referring to Oxnard's branded neck-block plates, then that's only been going on for a short while.

I’ve seen some recent ones that had no paper label inside, but only a stamp on the neck block that had model number, serial number etc. when I said “after Tacoma” I just meant more recently. I should’ve been more clear

 

[Guildguy1965]

I saw that ad for the burst DV52 and bookmarked it (like I need another one!). When I went back an hour later it was already sold!

Tell us more about it when you get your paws on it.

Congrats!

Just one more I always say!
I have wanted one of these for a long time but it had to be a burst and it had to be in top shape and this checked both boxes. I will update once I get it.

 

[Guildguy1965]

I've never seen it as a formal finish color name from anywhere but there, although it's possible it was a new name on an old formula as we've seen before. But only 3 types of 'burst out of Westerly at that time if one includes and the Cherry which was only "standard" on flattops. For that matter think the "Tobacco" was only standard on electrics, too.


All DV52's were Westerly built, see my comment above re standard color names, "Iced Tea" (as a name) doesn't appear anywhere but in Tacoma catalogs, and it's pretty darn light. Think yours will turn out to be an exceptionally light Antique Burst, that was the standard 'burst on flattops in '97.

What does your label say?

I'll betcha a buck it says "DV52-AB" (Or maybe "Ant. Burst") (Only a buck 'cause I ain't a gambling man. )

Yea,
I’ll know once it arrives. The pics I have don’t show very well for color designation. So
I’ll have to wait until it arrives. (I’d do a buck as well cause I’m not a gambling man either) all my extra coin goes towards Guilds

 

[fronobulax]

I’ve seen some recent ones that had no paper label inside, but only a stamp on the neck block that had model number, serial number etc. when I said “after Tacoma” I just meant more recently. I should’ve been more clear

Recent is relative but New Hartford closed in 2014 which doesn't seem all that recent to me

 

[Guildguy1965]

it's the arched back. it makes it sound larger than rosewood.

Ya know,
I sold my 87’ Cherry D-25 with factory electronics a few months back because I have a 92’ D4NT that sounds so much better to me. My D-25 went to a buyer in Texas. I don’t know what it is about the D4’s build but dang it sounds great and i know both are mahogany guitars,
I’ll never sell the 92’ I paid 399.00 for it years ago and it’s a trouper!

 

[dreadnut]

My buddy's '75 D35 is tobacco 'burst.

 

[Guildguy1965]

Very nice!

 

[SFIV1967]

^ Heath, I'm not sure what you mean. There are paper labels for all Guild eras. ???

No. When Oxnard started production in late 2015 there were no paper labels inside anymore (all info laser etched on the neck block badge similar to what Martin Guitar is doing) and mostly there are still no paper labels, exceptions are two GSR models and the M-20 since 2020:

Oxnard Guilds : No Labels Inside ?

I am looking at pictures of new Oxnard Guilds. I can't see a picture of a label inside the guitars, in any of the pictures. I remember all USA Guilds had a label inside, telling you what you just bought. Did they stop doing this ?? That's messed up, man.

letstalkguild.com

Ralf

 

[chazmo]

Right, sorry. Start of Oxnard. Heath mentioned Tacoma and I didn't know what he was referring to, Ralf. Thanks.