Help ! I’m confused ^^
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SFIV1967
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I'm not sure, that is a type I can't remember. Doesn't look like Kolb (
By the way, somebody did quite a bit of damage to the chrome edge when trying to open them...
Top compare: The left is a Kolb made one and the one on the right was also unclear and Hans only said we should find it out as he once told us... (it was neither Schaller nor Ping as far as I remember).
Ralf
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Los Angeles
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this is not an accusation or an attempt to scare you, but I think what you have is a guitar that was likely stolen at some point. it's the only thing that explains that the serial number was removed both from the back of the headstock and the inside label. That would also explain the bad lacquer job on the headstock. back before the internet, it was a lot easier to steal stuff, scrape off the serial number and drive to the next town over and sell it at a pawn shop, etc. These days, you'd have to be nuts to attempt anything like that because now there are cameras everywhere and internet sleuths who will make your life miserable. BUT - back in the day, it was really common to find guitars for sale with badly marred serial numbers.
hansmoust
Enlightened Member
Hello folks,
The tuners are the 'very' first style of Schaller M-6 tuners. I remember being introduced to them at the Frankfurt Fair (most likely during 1968, but I could be a year off) where I was looking for good quality tuners to use as replacements for the cheaper tuners that were used on the instruments that I was working on at the time. Anyway, I took some sets home and used them on guitars that are still floating around in my area. I would think that Alfred Dronge did the same thing and during my research for the Guild book I came across several instruments, that normally would have had Grover RotoMatics, but instead were outfitted with those early Schaller M-6 tuners with the more rounded buttons.
When I still had the M-75 Aristocrat / Bluesbird collection I had a 1968 Bluesbird that had them as well; obviously those were gold ones.
Here's a photo that shows those tuners on a D-50 from 1970:
Shortly after that guitar was made the Schaller M-6 tuners became standard on several other models, but by that time they already had the buttons with the sharper corners.
Sincerely,
Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl
The tuners are the 'very' first style of Schaller M-6 tuners. I remember being introduced to them at the Frankfurt Fair (most likely during 1968, but I could be a year off) where I was looking for good quality tuners to use as replacements for the cheaper tuners that were used on the instruments that I was working on at the time. Anyway, I took some sets home and used them on guitars that are still floating around in my area. I would think that Alfred Dronge did the same thing and during my research for the Guild book I came across several instruments, that normally would have had Grover RotoMatics, but instead were outfitted with those early Schaller M-6 tuners with the more rounded buttons.
When I still had the M-75 Aristocrat / Bluesbird collection I had a 1968 Bluesbird that had them as well; obviously those were gold ones.
Here's a photo that shows those tuners on a D-50 from 1970:
Shortly after that guitar was made the Schaller M-6 tuners became standard on several other models, but by that time they already had the buttons with the sharper corners.
Sincerely,
Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl
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Guildedagain
Enlightened Member
Casting flash maybe?
GGJaguar
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