JF30-12 - thoughts
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What is the condition of the 12-string? How is the neck? Straight? If so, then I do not see why not. Personally I find a rosewood 6-string OM to be more versatile than a 12-string, but that is just my opinion. People, myself included, love the sound of a maple 12-er.
Ridgemont said:
The 12 string is said to be in very good nick - http://durban.gumtree.co.za/c-Stuff-for ... Z305421039 - a 1996 Westerly apparently... I would tend to agree about an OM being more versatile, but I'm attached to having an American Guild - good guitars are difficult to find here. Also keen to get more into 12 strings
adorshki
Reverential Member
If my D25 is any indicator, I think '96 was a VERY good year for Westerly. It's also been said by a member who used to work in Westerly (Hideglue) that the period following Fender's takeover in '95 was the high point for Westerly QC.atmarama said:The 12 string is said to be in very good nick - http://durban.gumtree.co.za/c-Stuff-for ... Z305421039 - a 1996 Westerly apparently... I would tend to agree about an OM being more versatile, but I'm attached to having an American Guild - good guitars are difficult to find here. Also keen to get more into 12 strings
Personal opinion is that any decent condition Westerly will ALWAYS have a better resale value than ANY GAD model, it's just the way the vintage market is.
JF30-12 has been cited as THE best value in Guild 12's from that era, on a price-to-quality basis.
After you fall in love with the sound, there's that gorgeous maple arched back to get acquainted with too...
Sayyy....just occurred to me, that wouldn't be Zelja's JF30-12, would it?
adorshki
Reverential Member
oops.
Dadaist
Senior Member
That's a trade (straight across, no cash?) that would, if the guitar doesn't have any issues, be a plus for you.
As nice as Guild's GADs are, you just can't compare it to a Westerly, Maple 12'ver. Looks like you've got a collection of
six string guitars, so it wouldn't be a problem having two 12'vers.
If we're just looking at value, my Blue Book says a GAD 30R to be worth USD $325 average, to $725 mint, whereas a Westerly JF-30 12
USD $750 average to $1300 mint. Sounds like a good trade to me.
David
As nice as Guild's GADs are, you just can't compare it to a Westerly, Maple 12'ver. Looks like you've got a collection of
six string guitars, so it wouldn't be a problem having two 12'vers.
If we're just looking at value, my Blue Book says a GAD 30R to be worth USD $325 average, to $725 mint, whereas a Westerly JF-30 12
USD $750 average to $1300 mint. Sounds like a good trade to me.
David
Taylor Martin Guild
Senior Member
I sold my JF-30-12 2 years ago for $1,200.00
It was a 1991 and in very good condition.
If the neck is good and not in need of a reset, you will be getting a great deal.
If you don't like the 12 string you will be able to sell it for a lot more than you would get for the GAD.
It was a 1991 and in very good condition.
If the neck is good and not in need of a reset, you will be getting a great deal.
If you don't like the 12 string you will be able to sell it for a lot more than you would get for the GAD.
West R Lee
Venerated Member
I'm a dreadnaught guy, but the JF30 12 is an exception. Just a fabulous 12 string guitar, I love mine.
West
West
Zelja
Senior Member
adorshki said:Sayyy....that wouldn't be Zelja's JF30-12, would it?
No, no, no - I'm not in South Africa. :wink:
Mine is still at the shop waiting on a neck reset - the luthier had a setback when he sliced off a bit of his finger.
Can't wait to get it back - sufferring withdrawal. Should get the D50 back from repairs this weekend/early next week too.
adorshki
Reverential Member
I shoulda caught that! I was focused on "Gumtree"... :lol:Zelja said:No, no, no - I'm not in South Africa. :wink:adorshki said:Sayyy....that wouldn't be Zelja's JF30-12, would it?
So if the bit o' finger wound up inside the guitar, does that make it yours? Or was it someone else's guitar? :lol: :shock:
Zelja
Senior Member
^^^^
Well I hope he would be professional enough not to leave scraps around after the repair.
Well I hope he would be professional enough not to leave scraps around after the repair.
johnny3j
Member
I had a mid 90s JF30-12 a while back, beautiful looking iced tea sunburst finish on spruce & fiddleback maple with a big sound as they say.
I gave it to my best buddy as a gift on his 50th b/day so its still technically in the family, highly recommended!
I gave it to my best buddy as a gift on his 50th b/day so its still technically in the family, highly recommended!
Scratch
Enlightened Member
Can't say enough about the JF-30-12. I play mine more than any other Guild in the corral. Something special about maple and 12 strings...
Thanks for the responses folks
Thanks Dave! The GAD is a 30RE so we must add a first class fishman pickup and sweetly discreet soundhole mounted preamp. It is also beyond mint condition, so probably a fair swap I reckon then...
Dadaist said:
Thanks Dave! The GAD is a 30RE so we must add a first class fishman pickup and sweetly discreet soundhole mounted preamp. It is also beyond mint condition, so probably a fair swap I reckon then...
Taylor Martin Guild
Senior Member
atmarama said:Thanks for the responses folks
Dadaist said:
Thanks Dave! The GAD is a 30RE so we must add a first class fishman pickup and sweetly discreet soundhole mounted preamp. It is also beyond mint condition, so probably a fair swap I reckon then...
You are still getting the better end of the deal.
Without any issues, the JF-30-12 is still worth at least $400.00 more than the GAD with pickup.
Taylor Martin Guild said:atmarama said:Thanks for the responses folks
Dadaist said:
Thanks Dave! The GAD is a 30RE so we must add a first class fishman pickup and sweetly discreet soundhole mounted preamp. It is also beyond mint condition, so probably a fair swap I reckon then...
You are still getting the better end of the deal.
Without any issues, the JF-30-12 is still worth at least $400.00 more than the GAD with pickup.
Sweet - lets hope theres no issues with the 12'er then
frettedstrings
Senior Member
.[/quote]http://durban.gumtree.co.za/c-Stuff-for-Sale-musical-instruments-GUILD-JF-30-12-Bl-Guitar-W0QQAdIdZ305421039 - a 1996 Westerly apparently... [/quote]
12,500 Rand = $1741.04 USD.......
12,500 Rand = $1741.04 USD.......
Zelja
Senior Member
Not surprised & probably not outrageous. You guys in the US don't know how lucky you are (or how unlucky the rest of us are) with regards to musical instrument pricing.frettedstrings said:
A new GAD JF30-12 with pickup, was on special here online for AUD $1,950 or so - and our dollar is stronger than yours...
hojo199
Member
I bought my '93, and my Taylor 12 became immediately expendable; (I sent it to Florida to keep me company when I visit my dad). The Guild had 1/8" action at the 12th fret and little bone left. I took it to Paul Nerri and he say that there was tons of meat on the bridge. He sanded it down a bit, and the guitar is now an absolute dream to play -- the tone , of course, is just ridiculous as anyone on this forum knows.... Do the deal!
hojo199 said:
The good news is I did the deal, and both parties are super stoked! A new GAD 30RE here in SA sells for around $1800 so in terms of South African ront the deal looks fair...
The bad news is, after doing conversions between mm and inches, the action at the 12th fret is pretty much 1/5"... While it does look like there is "meat" on the bridge, I am loathe to do that... I tuned her down to Eb but didn't make much difference... The sound of course is as expected, big and beautiful - just what to do about the action?
I'll try get some pics up tomorrow,
Cheers