West R Lee
Venerated Member
We could have the red one, white one and blue one together next Fourth of July. Hey Jeff, i'll bet you remember the waterproof D25 don't cha?
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West R Lee
Venerated Member
We could have the red one, white one and blue one together next Fourth of July. Hey Jeff, i'll bet you remember the waterproof D25 don't cha?
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marcellis
Senior Member
This one is as pretty as they get, Burgundy-red with a lovely white-binding.
It's a decent price too.
It's a decent price too.
marcellis
Senior Member
This one is as pretty as they get, Burgundy-red with a lovely white-binding.
It's a decent price too.
It's a decent price too.
GardMan
Enlightened Member
marcellis said:
That's a newer flat-backed D-25 from Corona.
The "red" one (http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/msg/854852543.html) is an older Westerly-made arched back. While US$700 is at the high end of what a Westerley D-25 might fetch, it isn't off the wall for a mid-'70s D-25 in VG-E condition. If it's in good shape, it might bring that much (particularly if the buyer is local and thus avoids the $50-75 shipping cost). But, Westerly D-25s in VG condition can often be had for under US$600 on eBay (mine was ~$550 + $50 shipping). BTW... the "M" doesn't stand for solid mahogany... if it's a '77, it will have a mahogany-stained spruce top (prior to '73 D-25s were all 'hog flat-backed; rarer, all 'hog arched back D-25s date from a brief period in '73-'74; after ~'74 to sometime in the '90s (or later?), D-25a were spruce topped with arched 'hog backs).
GardMan
Enlightened Member
marcellis said:
That's a newer flat-backed D-25 from Corona.
The "red" one (http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/msg/854852543.html) is an older Westerly-made arched back. While US$700 is at the high end of what a Westerley D-25 might fetch, it isn't off the wall for a mid-'70s D-25 in VG-E condition. If it's in good shape, it might bring that much (particularly if the buyer is local and thus avoids the $50-75 shipping cost). But, Westerly D-25s in VG condition can often be had for under US$600 on eBay (mine was ~$550 + $50 shipping). BTW... the "M" doesn't stand for solid mahogany... if it's a '77, it will have a mahogany-stained spruce top (prior to '73 D-25s were all 'hog flat-backed; rarer, all 'hog arched back D-25s date from a brief period in '73-'74; after ~'74 to sometime in the '90s (or later?), D-25a were spruce topped with arched 'hog backs).
taabru45
Enlightened Member
I'm lovin' my new corona white D25. every bit a Guild. It all mahogany including top. Sounds great, plays like butter, and looks good, although I'm not quite used to a colored top, yet. Just avoid using a guitar hanger or rack that has that surgical tubing on it, eats finishes, Wrap the hangers with a leather sleeve. Probably good Idea for rubber of any kind. :wink: Steffan
marcellis
Senior Member
It depends on who you ask. They're both great guitars.
The arched-back D-25's are a lot louder than the solid hogs.
I prefer the tone of the solid hogs to the arched backs.
But I seem to be in a minority here.
I have a 1976 Hog/Spruce D-40 and a 1972 pure Hog D-25.
I prefer the D-25 tone. The D-40 is louder.
Another difference is that the arched back D-25's are heavier.
The solid hogs are very light-weight.
Either way, you can't go wrong with a D-25. It's seriously one of
the greatest acoustic dreads ever made.
Here's my solid Hog D-25 on comedy number.
Perhaps You're Just Stupid - Congenitally.
I could have never gotten that particular sound with a Spruce topped guitar.
I prefer Maple for recording. But when Mahogany is right -
like it is on that song, it really kicks a**.
marcellis said:
Affordable Guitars in Sumner, Wa has a Red Corona D25 like the model Marc posted up. I don't know what it was, looked sort of like Fender sent it to Tijuana for a quick & dirty paint job. The finish may well be the reason it was marked as a 2nd & serial number obliterated. Darn fool was asking a silly price.
I've seen several later Westerly D25's in Black & they all looked pretty good, in spite of some obvious abuse. The black is subtly translucent. Seems a tough & durable finish.
Midnite here is a nice unit, 94 (?) Westerly. Superb player, quite live, articulate sweet voice, .
marcellis
Senior Member
Do some of the arched backs also have Hog tops?
In 1996 I went to a music store to buy a Guild because I wanted that Guild sound- the only 2 Guild guitars they had that either 1 were in my price range or 2 not totally beat up were a 71 d25 flat back all mahagony or an 81 d25 spruce top arched back- i played them side by side with fresh strings and wound up choosing the 81 because of it's bright clear sound, and loud projection- the mahongany one sounded good, but more darker and a softer sound.
I sold the d25 because for my size the f-30 or f-20 is much easier to play- with the d-25 it was like "wrestling with a whale" but at the time I bought it, that was the only Guild's I could find.
I sold the d25 because for my size the f-30 or f-20 is much easier to play- with the d-25 it was like "wrestling with a whale" but at the time I bought it, that was the only Guild's I could find.
GardMan
Enlightened Member
marcellis said:
During the transition from all 'hog flat-backed to spruce-topped arched-back ~'73-74, there were some 'hog-topped arched-back D-25s made. They pop up occasionally on eBay, and sell for prices comparable to the other two varieties. Later on, other models (for example, D-17; others?) had 'hog tops and arched backs.
marcellis
Senior Member
I've never played a hog-topped/arched back D-25. I'd be really interested to hear how
one sounded. I've played the hog topped flat-backs & the Spruce topped arched backs.
one sounded. I've played the hog topped flat-backs & the Spruce topped arched backs.
I called the guy about this one in CT. The bridge is starting to pull up and there is no case, but other than that, it looks fine. Its a '78 D25M.
http://www.daddys.com/used/?itemnumber=GUI0537
I broke down and bought a DV4 instead because I wanted to play before I bought.
http://www.daddys.com/used/?itemnumber=GUI0537
I broke down and bought a DV4 instead because I wanted to play before I bought.
Do D25s have laminated backs and solid sides? If yes did they ever have a full solid wood design? How does a DV4 compare? Im seriously persuing a couple on ebay but hate the fact you cant try before you buy, also there is a DV4 in my city i could check out.
I should let one of the more knowledgeable people answer this question but I'll take a stab at it and then feel horrible when my cockiness is shoved back in my face.
From everything I've read on the D-25s, they are all solid wood.
The DV4 is a "replica" (if you will) of the D4 which was similar in some respects to the early D-25. I have recently bought a brand new (Tacoma) DV4 which I am quite pleased with thus far. Also, everything that I've read points to the fact that buying a Guild from the Westerley(sp?) era is usually a better buy. Mine is a Tacoma, so I can't vouch from experience but its still a solid guitar.
Then again, I'm a noob, so I might be completely wrong.
From everything I've read on the D-25s, they are all solid wood.
The DV4 is a "replica" (if you will) of the D4 which was similar in some respects to the early D-25. I have recently bought a brand new (Tacoma) DV4 which I am quite pleased with thus far. Also, everything that I've read points to the fact that buying a Guild from the Westerley(sp?) era is usually a better buy. Mine is a Tacoma, so I can't vouch from experience but its still a solid guitar.
Then again, I'm a noob, so I might be completely wrong.
GardMan
Enlightened Member
It is my understanding from many discussions here, that while a small subset of high end arch tops had solid carved tops and/or backs, the arched backs of all the various Guild flat-tops (ie, the D-25, G-37/D-30, and others) that have them are laminated tonewood (NOT cheap plywood), and that the sides are solid. Dave
yeah, what Dave said 
you can also add to that list: the F-50BL and JF-50BL, the D-15, D-16 and D-17, the F-412BL ans the JF-55-12BL I believe, as well as the DCE-5 and others.
I have heard some talk of some laminated sides, but I think most are solid. Laminating the tonewoods allowed them to soak and press the one-piece backs into the archback shape, and it requires no internal bracing. That's why I think they project so well, they have kind of a parabolic geometry that focuses a lot of sound on the sound hole, with no bracing to break up the sound waves.
or not... :?
you can also add to that list: the F-50BL and JF-50BL, the D-15, D-16 and D-17, the F-412BL ans the JF-55-12BL I believe, as well as the DCE-5 and others.
I have heard some talk of some laminated sides, but I think most are solid. Laminating the tonewoods allowed them to soak and press the one-piece backs into the archback shape, and it requires no internal bracing. That's why I think they project so well, they have kind of a parabolic geometry that focuses a lot of sound on the sound hole, with no bracing to break up the sound waves.
or not... :?
john_kidder
Senior Member
dreadnut said:
I think you're right on the mark. They're all laminated because they could be pressed into shape just as you say. And I presume they were easier to make, without all that fussy bracing.