WTB: Guild X500T (Paladin's Model) also other x-500s

[kakerlak]

If you check out the pic of mine, it is also sans logo. I haven't seen any with the logo on the pickguard........yet.

Sadly, most folks' pics no longer show up here at work (no more access to photo-hosting sites). I'd love to have a plexi guard made in the old, rounded style w/ the chevron logo for it, but hard to justify the effort and expense. Something about the plain black one just looks out of place.

 

[Dave_Key]

Don't know if it's of any help but I'm pretty sure my X500T was built in 2000 at the Westerly site. If anyone knows how many Paladin's were made that would be great.

 

[northbayj]

Dave, you need to post a sound file of your X500 through that Marshall stack. I'm thinking the feedback would be on the global armageddon scale. :twisted: :roll: :lol:

 

[hansmoust]

Don't know if it's of any help but I'm pretty sure my X500T was built in 2000 at the Westerly site. If anyone knows how many Paladin's were made that would be great.

Hello Dave,

Unfortunately Guild only kept serial numbers for the combined group of X-500s and X-500Ts, so there's no way of telling right now how many X-500Ts were done during that period.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[BluesDan]

Don't know if it's of any help but I'm pretty sure my X500T was built in 2000 at the Westerly site. If anyone knows how many Paladin's were made that would be great.

Awesome looking x500t!! 8) 8)

 

[Dave_Key]

Thanks for the compliments guys. There aren't many big boned P90 units out there.

northbayj, I was concerned about uncontrolled feedback but you can drive it pretty hard without any issues. But if you want to you can get that "hurts so good" sound.

Hans, I looked and don't see a block. I'm guessing it wasn't needed because of the laminated top vs the carved X700 top.

Dave

 

[hansmoust]

Hans, I looked and don't see a block. I'm guessing it wasn't needed because of the laminated top vs the carved X700 top. Dave

Thanks for looking Dave, but your conclusion is not correct. As I told you some X-500s have the block and the reason I asked you to check is to come up with an approx. date that the block was used and when it was omitted.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[Danny F]

This has been a very informative thread for me, so thanks again to everyone - and that is a super looking X500T - nice to have a pic to see that they actually exist! I'm finding this search very disappointing (8 months now with not a single lead).

@ Hans, have you been abe to get a fix on when the blocks were introduced? I was wondering this too...
Thanks!
Danny

 

[hansmoust]

Hans, have you been abe to get a fix on when the blocks were introduced? I was wondering this too...
Thanks! Danny

Hello Danny,

The introduction of the block on the X-500 goes back to the '80s, a long time before the introduction of the X-500T. I have a bunch of X-500s and X-500Ts from 2000 and 2001 in my database, of which some have the block and some don't. At this point I do not see a pattern!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[Dave_Key]

Hans, do you have any "blocked" Westerly X500T's in your database?

I'm by no means an expert but what I understand is feedback problems are more of a concern with solid tops than with laminated tops and bracing or blocks were used, at least in part, to manage feedback.

I can't offer an explanation why Guild felt the need to block some 500's and not others since feedback hasn't been a problem with mine and after about 10 years top stability hasn't been a concern.

PS. northbayj, the Paladin sounds great thru the DSL50 but I have a black face Vibrolux that is its sound soul mate.

 

[hansmoust]

Hans, do you have any "blocked" Westerly X500T's in your database?

Yes, that's what I tried to tell you in my previous 2 postings.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[hansmoust]

This has been a very informative thread for me, so thanks again to everyone - and that is a super looking X500T - nice to have a pic to see that they actually exist! I'm finding this search very disappointing (8 months now with not a single lead).

Danny, where are you located?

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[Guilderagain]

... "The introduction of the block on the X-500 goes back to the '80s, a long time before the introduction of the X-500T. I have a bunch of X-500s and X-500Ts from 2000 and 2001 in my database, of which some have the block and some don't. At this point I do not see a pattern! ..."

Hans,

Could it be that it was added/not on a case by case basis? Perhaps some test was performed to evaluate if a block was necessary? Or am I just fishing here? :lol:

Regards,

 

[hansmoust]

Could it be that it was added/not on a case by case basis? Perhaps some test was performed to evaluate if a block was necessary? Or am I just fishing here?

Hello Alex,

The block that I'm talking about is not something that could be added when the instrument was already finished. The block became an essential part on every X-500 during the '80s.
After the introduction of the X-700, the X-500 was discontinued for a couple of years and when it was reintroduced it did not automatically get the internal block, which it had when it was discontinued.
What I'm trying to figure out is when the X-500(T) did get the block again and the only thing I can do right now is making notes on the X-500s and X-500Ts that I come across.
What is the serial number of your X-500?

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[Guilderagain]

... "What is the serial number of your X-500?"...

Hans,

The serial number of my X-500 is CX-70 - with no block.

I took note the block on my X-170 (AK171510) has a pedestal base and a block about 2" x 5" x 1/2"
Of note is the sloppy job of gluing the pedestal with beads of glue that have oozed out -juxtaposed with the rest of the guitar that has impecable and flawless craftmanship.

I assume they use a similair block for the X-500, or others?

Regards,

 

[hansmoust]

The serial number of my X-500 is CX-70 - with no block.

OK, you have a Corona X-500. I was investigating the 2000-2001 X-500s from Westerly.

I took note the block on my X-170 (AK171510) has a pedestal base and a block about 2" x 5" x 1/2". Of note is the sloppy job of gluing the pedestal with beads of glue that have oozed out -juxtaposed with the rest of the guitar that has impecable and flawless craftmanship.
I assume they use a similair block for the X-500, or others?

Yup, that's the block I was referring to and which they also used for the X-500(T).

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[Darryl Hattenhauer]

Thanks, fellow Guilders. This is a great thread. Sorry I missed it, but grateful to Dave Key for telling me about it. I had no idea about all of these blocks. Now I'm really curious about all the differences. Did the X180 ever get a block?

Does anybody know of any youtubers playing an X170, X170T, X500, X500T, or X700? I t would be great to hear blocked and blocked versions of these compared to each other.

hf

 

[BluesDan]

Thanks, fellow Guilders. This is a great thread. Sorry I missed it, but grateful to Dave Key for telling me about it. I had no idea about all of these blocks. Now I'm really curious about all the differences. Did the X180 ever get a block?

Does anybody know of any youtubers playing an X170, X170T, X500, X500T, or X700? I t would be great to hear blocked and blocked versions of these compared to each other.

hf

Curious Hat......here is a pretty good vid of an x700
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLIExHWh59M

fwiw.....no block in my x700.

 

[AlohaJoe]

I just noticed that archtop.com has a sunburst '96 X-700 on the way.
http://www.archtop.com/ac_inst.html#anchor46021433

He can be a little pricey but not bad, and always has nice gear. The last one he had was a '98, shown here: http://www.archtop.com/ac_99x700.html I don't remember the exact price, but I'm pretty sure it was well under 3k.

The X-700 has a particularly sweet tone due to the carved top, though somewhat less feedback resistant than the laminated X-500 in high-volume settings. Any competent luthier should be able to install a removeable sound post if it turns out you need one, although I that would likely negate the tonal advantages of a carved top.
- Joe

 

[Darryl Hattenhauer]

BD,

A very informative clip. Maybe someday I can afford one, or an AA.