Rant for the day

[Rambozo96]

You think y'all have problems? Lately, whenever I call my local Studebaker Service Center the phone just rings and rings--they never answer!
I think my warranty has expired, too...

I know it! I had the same problem with the phone just ringing and ringing. I finally got fed up and drove straight to the factory. Guess they were on a holiday or something! Grinds my gears man.

 

[Rambozo96]

I covered the TPMS warning light with black electrical tape on my 2005 Grand Cherokee dash and moved on.
M

The Homer Simpson approach!

 

[geoguy]

I've used a few different Nokian WR model tires year-round on AWD vehicles for a long time. They were originally designed for use in Europe, where someone might start a trip in a mild location (say, a sunny coastal town in Italy) and end up in the snowy Alps.

They look like they were designed by someone afflicted by multiple personality disorder, but they work quite well. In fact, they have the "mountain & snowflake" symbol on the sidewall that indicates a tire with exceptional snow traction.

Best of all - no summer/winter tire changes!

Nokian WR G4

 

[bluesypicky]

That's one weird looking tire indeed.... doesn't look much like a snow tire but hey if it's working!
Interesting.

 

[chazmo]

What, you want it to be more efficient than the human brain?
What I anna know ids whether or not thy'll tolerate

You OK, Al?

 

[adorshki]

This is the tool in question.
Put the car in "learn mode" then go around the car clockwise starting at the driver side front pointing the little black antenna towards the sensor and press the white button.
The horn will honk once on the first 3 wheels and twice on the last one indicating the sequence has been successfully completed.

Are you sure it's not just doing that so you'll think you actually accomplished something?

 

[adorshki]

So, this is definitely a tangential part of my rant... TPMS is a safety device. The cost is too high to buy and replace sensors, yes, so IMHO the vendors should be subsidizing this, not essentially discouraging their use.

Passenger seat airbag sensor out in '07 Milan, checked when had it in for Drivers side airbag recall. $1200.00, not covered under recall.

Eff 'em. I never have passengers anyway. Which also begs the question. why'd it go out in the first place?

 

[bluesypicky]

Are you sure it's not just doing that so you'll think you actually accomplished something?

The thought crossed my mind.... why I double checked the TPMS reading with my manual digital gauge.
They were in agreement.

 

[bluesypicky]

Passenger seat airbag sensor out in '07 Milan, checked when had it in for Drivers side airbag recall. $1200.00, not covered under recall.

Question is, does your passenger ejector seat still work?

 

[adorshki]

You OK, Al?

Yeah just changed my mind, decided not to post it, but it's easier to just "post" and delete immediately. (I did delete it, right? )

I was wondering if the TPMS tolerates higher-than-"door-plate" pressures?

For folks like me who like to run 'em high as a matter of course, especially after figuring out that the factory-spec 32 PSI on low-profile sidewalls cost me two "pinch flats" which I've never had again since going up to 45 on the factory spec 51 psi rated tires.

And I check 'm once a week just to be sure I didn't pick up something causing a slow leak.

 

[adorshki]

Question is, does your passenger ejector seat still work?

Dunno, gotta have a passenger to test it out.

Any takers?

 

[walrus]

I never have passengers anyway.

Dunno, gotta have a passenger to test it out.

Any takers?

Al, you may want to think about WHY you have no passengers...

walrus

 

[adorshki]

Al, you may want to think about WHY you have no passengers...

walrus

Well it's certainly not due to my personal hygiene.

 

[chazmo]

Yeah just changed my mind, decided not to post it, but it's easier to just "post" and delete immediately. (I did delete it, right? )

I was wondering if the TPMS tolerates higher-than-"door-plate" pressures?

For folks like me who like to run 'em high as a matter of course, especially after figuring out that the factory-spec 32 PSI on low-profile sidewalls cost me two "pinch flats" which I've never had again since going up to 45 on the factory spec 51 psi rated tires.

And I check 'm once a week just to be sure I didn't pick up something causing a slow leak.

TPMS definitely does warn about high tire pressures, Al. But, I'm not sure if that's universally true or even what the threshold might be. I know I had a TPMS alert happen once on a very hot day after some highway driving in my previous Subie (2016 Impreza). I think that was with the stock sensors for that car, but I don't really remember.

I know you like to run your your tires over recommendation, so you might indeed have issues with that.

 

[adorshki]

TPMS definitely does warn about high tire pressures, Al. But, I'm not sure if that's universally true or even what the threshold might be. I know I had a TPMS alert happen once on a very hot day after some highway driving in my previous Subie (2016 Impreza). I think that was with the stock sensors for that car, but I don't really remember.

I know you like to run your your tires over recommendation, so you might indeed have issues with that.

Just occurred to me as well, even though I'm not much for aftermarket rims, that those'd probably be "problematic" as well? Any special requirements for the valve stem seating?

That's a pretty popular market, too, is the only reason I mention it.

 

[chazmo]

^ Problematic in what way, Al?

 

[adorshki]

^ Problematic in what way, Al?

As in, can the valve-stem sensors be mounted in any rim or do they have special mounting/seating requirements?

OK, bit the bullet and searched. Apparently will fit the "standard" valve stem holes but Schrader for example shows a mounting kit to ensure proper sealing:

TPMS Replacement | Schrader TPMS Solutions

In the event TPMS sensors need to be replaced, the cost can range from approximately $50-$100 each depending on vehicle type.

www.schradertpms.com

 

[bluesypicky]

TPMS definitely does warn about high tire pressures, Al. But, I'm not sure if that's universally true or even what the threshold might be. I know I had a TPMS alert happen once on a very hot day after some highway driving in my previous Subie (2016 Impreza). I think that was with the stock sensors for that car, but I don't really remember.
I know you like to run your your tires over recommendation, so you might indeed have issues with that.

Like AL, I run a good 2 to 4 PSI over recommendation, and to answer your question about a threshold, of course it varies from car to car, but I had a chance to find out what it is on the vette: 40PSI.
Guess I had overdone it a bit, and with the Flawda heat building up pressure mighty quickly inside these tires, one (right rear) tire got to 40PSI and "beep": "High tire pressure on rear passenger side".
That's how I found out.

 

[Opsimath]

All those sensor issues are a pain indeed, but you know what a real pain is? When you're making a sandwich and get mayonnaise on the knife handle!!!

 

[adorshki]

All those sensor issues are a pain indeed, but you know what a real pain is? When you're making a sandwich and get mayonnaise on the knife handle!!!

I know.
To lick or not to lick, right?

Like AL, I run a good 2 to 4 PSI over recommendation, and to answer your question about a threshold, of course it varies from car to car, but I had a chance to find out what it is on the vette: 40PSI.
Guess I had overdone it a bit, and with the Flawda heat building up pressure mighty quickly inside these tires, one (right rear) tire got to 40PSI and "beep": "High tire pressure on rear passenger side".
That's how I found out.

I used to run the Rx's and the T-bird at 40 on 44 psi cold rated tires, T-bird rated for 32 and I forget about the RX-7, but think it was, too, just seems to be a standard for passenger vehicles for ages.

Actually ran 47 and even up to 49 for a few years on the Milan, but think the tires start to get a little more puncture-prone after about 1/2-life at that tension, like a slightly-over-inflated balloon. But I could get 33+ mpg over a good week, averaging 27-29, and braking and handling absolutely improved at the expense of little ride comfort.

Started running 'em at 45 lately and noticed tracking's a little more stable at that pressure, probably that little extra bit of contact patch, and maybe how the slightly softer tire interacts with suspension?