next Oxnard model announced ...

[txbumper57]

Wait. Pointy heel on the Orfs? Oh no. Why didn't anyone tell me. This is terrible news. 

Only on the 000 models. All the others have the same rounded heel as the rest of the New Hartford Guilds. Just a note, This was something that was listed in the official description of the guitar and visible to the customer before He decided to purchase both of these guitars. Man I miss those days of Full Disclosure!

TX

 

[bobouz]

Pointy heels?

Eeewwww!

 

[Westerly Wood]

Only on the 000 models. All the rest have the same rounded heel as the rest of the New Hartford Guilds.

TX

Nice. And of course I am mostly kidding as I believe Ren's idea was to match the 1930 gibsons. Pointy heels.

However, my Santa Cruz has a pointy heel and that only lasted a year. Of course my wife is really digging it now.

 

[txbumper57]

Nice. And of course I am mostly kidding as I believe Ren's idea was to match the 1930 gibsons. Pointy heels.

However, my Santa Cruz has a pointy heel and that only lasted a year.  Of course my wife is really digging it now.

Actually the Orpheum 000's are somewhat of an Original design by Ren as they don't conform to any one model built from the 30's but I do imagine they have some Gibson influences since Ren pretty much influenced Gibsons for so many years.

TX

 

[Westerly Wood]

It is as if Guild acoustics are built to be as comfy as electrics. The neck on my D25 is so easy going, and my hand never rams into a pointy heel. Genius.

 

[adorshki]

Nice. And of course I am mostly kidding as I believe Ren's idea was to match the 1930 gibsons. Pointy heels.
However, my Santa Cruz has a pointy heel and that only lasted a year. Of course my wife is really digging it now.

Well, pointy heels are for women.
(Ducking and covering from the tomatoes being tossed by our female members)
:biggrin-new:

 

[Neal]

For what it's worth, all of my Froggy Bottom guitars have bolt-on necks, and non hide glue construction.

I agree that Guild should be more open and upfront about the types of joints that they use on the various guitar, so that the consumer can make a more informed decision / purchase. Until then, I will be only buy Froggy Bottom's......:culpability:

Tommy

Sorry, I am late to the dance.

My Huss & Dalton and Rockbridge, both stellar instruments, use a bolted mortise and tenon neck joint, and they were built in 2007 and 2009 respectively.

Maybe it's a better way to attach a neck.

But I agree that Guild ought to disclose it as other manufacturers have.

 

[fronobulax]

Man I miss those days of Full Disclosure!

TX

To be fair, full disclosure is a two way street. I don't care how my guitar's neck was attached as long as it sounds and plays within my expectations given my budget. So if nothing is said about something that makes no difference to me, then I'm OK. Note that in this particular case I believe something was said that turned out to be incorrect but to me the "crime" is not a lack of full disclosure as much as it was incorrect information followed by something that smells like a face saving cover up.

On Full Disclosure being in the eye of the beholder, I have a friend who refuses to buy certain electronic gear unless the manufacturer discloses certain information about where it was made and which chips were used. He claims he has access to a list of chips that contain back doors that allow a third party to access information and/or control the device and a list of factories that are known to provide consumer level equipment that can be monitored or controlled by intelligence agencies and law enforcement. I'm sure he would not care about the neck joint but I am certain he would never buy a Guild with factory electronics.

 

[txbumper57]

To be fair, full disclosure is a two way street. I don't care how my guitar's neck was attached as long as it sounds and plays within my expectations given my budget. So if nothing is said about something that makes no difference to me, then I'm OK. Note that in this particular case I believe something was said that turned out to be incorrect but to me the "crime" is not a lack of full disclosure as much as it was incorrect information followed by something that smells like a face saving cover up.

I couldn't agree with you more.

TX

 

[Bill Ashton]

Pretty much agree with Frono...but you never know when the govt/police might take over your stereo and make you listen to Lenny Kravitz...look what they did to Norega...

 

[txbumper57]

Pretty much agree with Frono...but you never know when the govt/police might take over your stereo and make you listen to Lenny Kravitz...look what they did to Norega...

ROLF LMAO! Good one Bill!

TX

 

[adorshki]

Pretty much agree with Frono...but you never know when the govt/police might take over your stereo and make you listen to Lenny Kravitz...look what they did to Norega...

And they'd-a broken 'im down a damn sight quicker if they'd gone straight for Barry Manilow.

 

[txbumper57]

When they put pointy heels on 'em that's when I'm jumpin' ship.

I got to thinking about this statement again this morning Al. Orpheums aside, Guild has been putting pointy heels on their Mark series of classical guitars since they came out with them in the 60's I believe. Just another observation as always, LOL! Just messin' with ya!


TX

 

[SFIV1967]

Just to make it clear, Guild does list on the spec section of each guitar what neck joint is used. It does however not say if it is glued or bolted or both.

The spec table simply shows: "Neck Joint: Mortise and Tenon"
One example: http://guildguitars.com/g/d-20-in-natural/

The D-40 Traditional spec table shows: "Neck Joint: Dovetail"
http://guildguitars.com/g/d-40-traditional-in-natural/

Ralf

 

[txbumper57]

Just to make it clear, Guild does list on the spec section of each guitar what neck joint is used. It does however not say if it is glued or bolted or both.

The spec table simply shows: "Neck Joint: Mortise and Tenon"
One example: http://guildguitars.com/g/d-20-in-natural/

The D-40 Traditional spec table shows: "Neck Joint: Dovetail"
http://guildguitars.com/g/d-40-traditional-in-natural/

Ralf

They do now Ralf and for this I applaud them, This was not the case for a good bit of D20/M20 production.

TX

 

[Bill Ashton]

You guys shouldn't have gotten me looking...:distress::distress:

No such real thing as "African Mahogany," thats a marketing term...Khaya is a different genus, like Sapele...WDNHU? (What Did New Hartford Use?)

The D55 does not show a neck joint type, though that does not bother me as much as the wood nomenclature.

Baggs Element pickup? Well, DTAR is no longer, but damn, they could have done better with that...

And whats this with Light Gauge strings? Oh, the horror...

 

[txbumper57]

You guys shouldn't have gotten me looking...:distress::distress:

No such real thing as "African Mahogany," thats a marketing term...Khaya is a different genus, like Sapele...WDNHU? (What Did New Hartford Use?)

The D55 does not show a neck joint type, though that does not bother me as much as the wood nomenclature.

Baggs Element pickup? Well, DTAR is no longer, but damn, they could have done better with that...

And whats this with Light Gauge strings? Oh, the horror...

I don't know about the Traditional series in New Hartford but I know Ren did and interview on the Orpheums from a guitar show that was posted on Youtube where he stated that the "Honduran Mahogany" back and sides that he used on the Orpheum 12 fret slopes and Jumbos was the best Base platform to start off an acoustic guitar on for tone purposes in his opinion. I have 3 Hog Orpheums from New Hartford that I love and I am more of a Rosewood guy by habit.

As far as the pickup system I agree that they should have at least started with something of the same quality of the DTAR Multisource. Never the less you can still buy the DTAR Multisource on the open market and have it installed. I have seen them priced between $160-$190.

TX

 

[JohnW63]

Never the less you can still buy the DTAR Multisource on the open market and have it installed.

I've thought about it. I'm just scared to have that done to my Guilds.

 

[txbumper57]

I've thought about it. I'm just scared to have that done to my Guilds.

The DTAR Multisource system that New Hartford used has the same diameter endpin jack as any other current pickups on the market. Everything else mounts with velcro or double sided tape internally. Now the DTAR Lock N' Load that they used in Tacoma is the one that needs the Big hole in place of the endpin because that is where the batteries install.

TX

 

[davismanLV]

Well, pointy heels are for women.
(Ducking and covering from the tomatoes being tossed by our female members)
:biggrin-new:

Oh really, Al????

I remember that cowboy/girl phase you went through a few years back...... anyone else?