Lipitor, who takes it?
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Yes but whether what I cook could be considered healthy or not is for others to decide. Let's push the band thing a little harder, first
CA-35
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CA-35
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Joe FYI your little unofficial poll is over 1700 views and 80 some odd replies.
What's your path of remedy young man?
adorshki
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I'm havin' a hard time lettin' go of the milk thing.
Had a "DOH!!" moment last night as I was inoculating some milk with acidophilus culture.
How could I forget that milk is a culture medium for some of the world's great probiotics:
Lactobacilli.
The stuff that makes yogurt and kefir.
Ahhhh....kefir. Haven't had the real thing since I was 17. Made with raw milk from a local dairy that finally had to fold a few years back. The land just got too valuable for the original farmer's family to keep on dairying. They had an impeccable health record, though. Sold the products by subscription only.
I used to add blood oranges to a batch, about a quart, let it ferment for about 48 hours, although it's drinkable as soon as overnite.
Stuff is a bit thicker and more buttery flavor than yogurt, but still tangy and a bit sweeter. It's carbonated too which is just...amazing. Sadly, the commercial stuff I've tried since then is little better than commercial yogurt.
Fermented milk products are found around the entire planet.
Even Ghenghis Khan fermented his mare's milk and we all know how he turned out.
Or maybe it was just from eatin' the raw meat they tenderized by puttin' it under their saddles while they rode all day.
Yep, versatility, that's what's saved the species so far.
That, and an insatiable urge to procreate.
I hear Lipitor may not be so useful in that regard.
Had a "DOH!!" moment last night as I was inoculating some milk with acidophilus culture.
How could I forget that milk is a culture medium for some of the world's great probiotics:
Lactobacilli.
The stuff that makes yogurt and kefir.
Ahhhh....kefir. Haven't had the real thing since I was 17. Made with raw milk from a local dairy that finally had to fold a few years back. The land just got too valuable for the original farmer's family to keep on dairying. They had an impeccable health record, though. Sold the products by subscription only.
I used to add blood oranges to a batch, about a quart, let it ferment for about 48 hours, although it's drinkable as soon as overnite.
Stuff is a bit thicker and more buttery flavor than yogurt, but still tangy and a bit sweeter. It's carbonated too which is just...amazing. Sadly, the commercial stuff I've tried since then is little better than commercial yogurt.
Fermented milk products are found around the entire planet.
Even Ghenghis Khan fermented his mare's milk and we all know how he turned out.
Or maybe it was just from eatin' the raw meat they tenderized by puttin' it under their saddles while they rode all day.
Yep, versatility, that's what's saved the species so far.
That, and an insatiable urge to procreate.
I hear Lipitor may not be so useful in that regard.
bluesypicky
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Actually I had the same reaction to Scott's remark on milk, but didn't feel like doing the ground work. I just knew how full of good stuff milk and its derivatives were, but now that you make it a (valid, well documented as always, and interesting) new branch of veers on this thread, Scott: Would you care to elaborate on this? (Curious here):
Side note: To this day, I have never had a better tasting "galette" than the one Mom used to make with the cream obtained from boiling the raw milk that we were getting straight from the farm at our summer vacation spot, in a village that had not quite yet transitioned from the era when France was called Gaul. :cupcake:
Side note: To this day, I have never had a better tasting "galette" than the one Mom used to make with the cream obtained from boiling the raw milk that we were getting straight from the farm at our summer vacation spot, in a village that had not quite yet transitioned from the era when France was called Gaul. :cupcake:
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CA-35
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OK. As Robert Duvall said in "Apocalypse Now" "You better get your people back it's gonna be a big one"
*Milk depletes calcium from your bones. Milk is an acidifying animal protein and it has a positive renal acid load or PRAL which triggers a protective biological reaction to neutralize all acid proteins before reaching the kidneys. So the body will sacrifice bone density to protect the kidneys. The most available source of acid neutralizer is in our bones. So what little calcium milk contains it ends up depleting that same mineral from your bones.
*Homogenization further alters the milks chemistry and increases the acidifying effects
*Cows milk is designed for cows it has 3 times the amount of protein than human milk which again creates metabolic imbalances in our body.
*The countries with the highest rate of osteoporosis coincidentally are also the same countries with the highest milk and calcium in their diets.
*Today's processed milk contain rGBH which is a genetically modified synthetic hormone used to increase milk production in cows. rGBH raises blood levels of the insulin growth factor 1(IGF-1) in those who drink it. It has been linked to several cancers.
I respectfully repeat we are the only mammalians on the face of this beautiful earth that continue to drink it after we are weened, and with all due respect 4 billion years of evolution cannot be wrong.
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bluesypicky
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ok but.... http://books.google.com/books/about/Sixty_Million_Frenchmen_Can_t_Be_Wrong.html?id=mmmIMTjYxSoC either. :star:
CA-35
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Oh so now I have to debate 60 million Frenchmen too?? Youre so funny Pascal. Got milk?
adorshki
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Without intending to pre-empt his repsonse, it also DID occur to me that maybe we're the only ones who do (continue to drink milk) because we're the only ones who can.
I can think of at least 3 other mammal species right off the bat that will drink milk after weening, given the opportunity (monkees, cats, and raccoons), but they can't easily obtain the stuff.
It wouldn't surprise me if monkees even try to steal it from cows in fact I have a vague recollection of having read that somewhere before.
However, that only addresses half of Scott's comment.
I too am curious about his specific reservations about milk itself, although I've got an inkling. The stuff isn't actually a magic wonder food or anything, I do know it's got its drawbacks..maybe he knows something I (we) haven't stumbled acroos yet .
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bluesypicky
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Looks like you may have missed post # 87... (he speaks in tongues in there so I could only respond with sarcasm)
adorshki
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And they're all his cousins too.
OK, your reply came through while I was still working on my last post. Don't think I ever heard about that net calcium loss thing before.
Something's not making sense there, gonna do some digging on the ol' interweb.
My personal metabolism involves already high levels of uric acid (the gout) for which calcium is supposed to be a beneficial counterbalance so I may not fit the model described anyway, but that doesn't mean there's not something worth looking at there.
Thanks for the feedback, no joke..
CA-35
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Al just because we can does not make it right or healthy. We can breathe underwater too thanks to SCUBA but that doesn't make it natural. It's an unnatural action and we circumvent mother nature. In my worthless humble opinion of course.
bluesypicky
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ATTA BOY!!!! Save my milk or I will never be able to look at my bottle (actually carton now) the same way in the morning.......
CA-35
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He repented. Geesh Pascal I'm usually the nasty one...
bluesypicky
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LOL!!! Well, I'm sure Al will come back with the in-depth stuff, but you can count on me the superficial analysis, so here's my take on this after a quick glance thru the "internets" (that series of tube as everyone knows): It seems the case about milk (and dairy) can be successfully argued either way, milk has plenty of nutritious qualities, but what works for me might not work for you, and there is some stuff in there that depending on your physiology, might not necessarily be good for you.
Hell, some are allergic to strawberries right? Does it mean that strawberries are to be avoided by all?
bluesypicky
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Yeah I had fun reading that book.
Fun fact (for Americans at least): French McDonald's serve beer.
bluesypicky
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One more fact (against my disposition for superficiality):
About 3/4 of the world is intolerant to lactose, the main carbohydrate in dairy products. Most people who are of a North European ancestry can digest lactose without problems.
About 3/4 of the world is intolerant to lactose, the main carbohydrate in dairy products. Most people who are of a North European ancestry can digest lactose without problems.
geoguy
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Plainly, unlike other mammals, humans drink milk because we can also bake chocolate-chip cookies. :friendly_wink: