bluesypicky
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Never missing a chance to snob the French hmmm?..... Now, how ya knew Joe was French? Did he tell you we were cousins? :frog:
Lipitor, who takes it?
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Never missing a chance to snob the French hmmm?..... Now, how ya knew Joe was French? Did he tell you we were cousins? :frog:
bluesypicky
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Well said Scott. As you very well know, I'm right there with you.
Gotta have my (sugar free) shredded wheat with milk in the morning though.... but I use reduced fat (2%)
Anyhow, as a French native, I developed a completely different tolerance/dependance on dairy, than y'all Yankees. :tongue:
And I'll be darned if I won't be slapping a porter house or a T-bone on my grill once in a while, and enjoy the bloody mess with my FRENCH fries!
But as you said, the rule is to make it the exception.
(makes me enjoy it even more actually)
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Rayk
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Hi folks , I was put on Lipitor it lasted less then a week had a started feeling sick head hurt like never before if I touched my hair it set my head fire with sever pain along with dark pee . Some major sickness was the Lipitor . I do take another type with no side effects I know of.
Something that might be of interest and or argument lol while I've been home recouping from partial double knee replacement the religious show 700 club following morning news due to nothing else on worth a hoot besides cartoons What? they have some interesting news stories which brings me to this one .
They had a cardiologist who wrote book name unknown but all his research over the many yrs of heart treatment and deaths there related the doctor states that high cholesterol is not ! let me say it again "not" the cause of heart failure or the likes . Very interesting report . Along with this it was stated to my ears via the TV that a lot of doctors are not up on the latest findings . I end it here and quietly exit stage left .
Lol
Something that might be of interest and or argument lol while I've been home recouping from partial double knee replacement the religious show 700 club following morning news due to nothing else on worth a hoot besides cartoons What? they have some interesting news stories which brings me to this one .
They had a cardiologist who wrote book name unknown but all his research over the many yrs of heart treatment and deaths there related the doctor states that high cholesterol is not ! let me say it again "not" the cause of heart failure or the likes . Very interesting report . Along with this it was stated to my ears via the TV that a lot of doctors are not up on the latest findings . I end it here and quietly exit stage left .
Lol
adorshki
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Because it's so easy to steal from cows?
Me I drink 3 gallons of it a week. Seriously. "Non fat". NO Bovine Growth Hormones. Lotta calcium, lotta protein.
Still got pretty good teeth and have had a coupla pratfalls that mighta cracked less dense bones in the last 5 or 6 years.
I never acquired the taste for soda, but for years I was good for about the same amount of beer per week.
Down to about a gallon, now.
Never did believe in hydrogenated fats (margarine, as somebody said), either. Always thought those were the real killers in the "American diet" after reading about it in Prevention when I was about 16.
It's the hydrogenation which prevents your body from breaking it down properly and allowing it build up on artery walls.
And it's been EVERYHWERE in all the cookies and breads and g-d-knows-what all for the last 50 years.
Before that it was only in Crisco and margarine.
Mama aways used real butter too.
Back to why do humans drink milk, quite seriously I'm gonna say it IS an evolutionary thing, because our primate predecessors were omnivorous. We'd try ANYTHING and by golly if it stayed down and didn't kill us it stayed on the list. Mighty handy survival tool for a basically fragile animal.
What surprises me is the Masai in Africa who live almost exclusively on cow's milk and blood.
I always wonder what the h-ll they do for fiber?
So somewhere along the line we domesticated the cow and apparently it's milk is a pretty darn good survival food in a very harsh environment.
Move the cow up to Europe and somebody discovers how to make cheese which is a really good way to preserve all the good stuff in milk.
So milk is easy to farm and gives leather and bone and wool, too, if you count goats and sheep.
We got this "paleo" diet craze poppin' up in the last couple of years, premise is that we're not adapted to digest a bunch of the stuff we eat, but I ain't buyin' it, I think the reason we survived so long is that we ARE so versatile in dietary adaptation. Again, mighty handy species survival adaptation.
My cynical humor aside, I actually agree with the basic time-honored recipe: diet and excercise.
My basic dietary premise?
I try to avoid as many modern day chemical "food conditioners" as I can. I suspect a whole lot more problems come from those than from say, real eggs or milk or cheese no matter how "fatty" they are.
When I started passing on commercial beef and went to Great Range buffalo, for example, my gout seemed to get far less troublesome for a few years there. "Hmmmm..." I says to myself, "I wonder if all those antibiotics and hormones aggravate the gout?"
Then there's soy oil. Maybe it's low cholesterol but there's other toxic phytochemicals in soy, and the protein itself is a MAJOR gout irritator so I try to avoid it wherever I can now, but it's everywhere.
Go read the salad dressing ingredients on your average supermarket shelf. I can tell you right now ALL the major national brands AND the 'house label economy brands" list it. Same with corn chips. Same with that "olive oil" mayo touting itself as low-cholesterol.
So how much soy toxin does the average Americn ingest with nary a clue as to what long-term effects might really be? Even the FDA figures that if a small dose don't kill ya then it's probably "safe as milk". (yeah, ":irony:")
How many people know there's more than enough lecithin in the average egg to keep all of its cholesterol emulsified?
THAT'S what the eggs are for in real mayonnaise.
I do have a bit of an issue with tossing around the term "American Diet", just because it implies a stereotype, and I hate stereotypes.
But I get that it appears that far too many families feed their kids high-fat low-fiber diets from "fast food" joints WAY too often like more than once a week. OK kids actually NEED a lot of fat in their formative years, it's good for nervous system development. But they don't all that sugar in the sodas someone mentioned.
OK I donn't really pay attention to soda prices, but isn't it usually cheaper than milk? Even if you buy it from teht market not the fast food joint??
And wasn't the milk subsidy supposed to help guarantee that there was always a plentiful supply of cheap milk and cheese for the nation's kids by making sure the dairy industry stayed healthy?
Gotta stop there, I'm at the edge of one of those pesky cliffs.
But y'all keep wailin', hear?
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bluesypicky
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Fixed for ya!
And I didn't see you nearing any cliff btw.... (and I would know: I'm scared of heights remember?) :barbershop_quartet_
adorshki
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Intolerance, especially milk intolerance, is a sad and regrettable human foible.
Here's another genetic thing, just an observed "datum" about protein metabolism and gout:
Beef is supposed to aggravate gout (high protein), but not me. Now, I knew a Japanese co-worker with gout who reacted strongly to beef, but not tofu (really high protein). Me, I discovered I react strongly to tofu.
Whaddaya think, genetic dietary adaptation at work?
Oh yeah, Frog legs: only if they aren't twitching any more.
CA-35
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:highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused:The best line of the whole freakin thread! Thank-you Al.
Let me be more specific. The term "American Diet" should have an asterisk next to it. The asterisk denotes McDonalds, Wendys, KFC, Popeyes, Long John Silvers, Burger King, Sonic, Jack in the Box, Denny's, IHOP, Checkers.....do I need to continue? Yes I've had a Whopper. Yes I've had a a 12 piece bucket from KFC....once or twice a year before my forties. It's amazing how much smarter my old man became as I aged.
Bon appetit my friends.
adorshki
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Did you know more writers kill their editors than any other class of victim?
Subsidies.
Subsidies have proven to be the stuff of highly contentious debates in the past.
Not just here but in Congress even.
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bluesypicky
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No doubt.
Your Masai observation already made that point, before the French dairy frenzy.....
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bluesypicky
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I have already notified the police and given them your avatar picture.
adorshki
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(pulling down closed fist): "YES!!"
Oops, did I say that out loud? :smile:
Agreed I think we all actually share a pretty common definition of the stereotype and after all, stereotypes wouldn't become stereotypes if there wasn't some truth to 'em.
But you know me, I love to debunk myths and stereotypes are usually great targets.
I think what I really wanted to get at is that in the last several years a lot of those chains have made significant strides in removing some of the more egregious problem ingredients from their menus.
KFC uses vegetable oil now. (Is it hydrogenated? I don't know, but I still do about 3 10-piece buckets a year, just not all at once. Plus you can get green beans as a side, now. I never was big on topping off a fried food with starch and gravy, but maybe I need to adapt)
McDonald's stopped using lard in the '90's. In case you ever wondered, that IS why the fries just don't taste as good as when you were a kid.
The hydrolyzed soy protein and pink slime are the same high quality ingredients they've been since the '70's, though.
They offer apples and fruit with Happy Meals now. Nobody wants 'em.
adorshki
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the French have dairy frenzies?
adorshki
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Why is it always about pics around here?
bluesypicky
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bluesypicky
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That and bread.
Yet not anywhere near the US rate of heart disease, go figure..... must be the wine eh?
adorshki
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That or the mustard?
Or maybe some kind of as-yet-undocumented, as Mick Jagger once said, "..errrr...chemical reaction..." between the two?
I'm gonna name my next band Mustard, Wine and Tofu.
bluesypicky
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Catchy. I like it.
Let me know if you need a lead guitar. And if it tanks, we can always recycle the marketing material and open a Franco-Japanese restaurant in Oxnard.
We'll give the Guild folks a discount for their lunch break.
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Hey Pascal, everyone seems to have skimmed over the "cousins" part of your post. :frog:
Joe
bluesypicky
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They sure did..... and I didn't want to spill your beans cuz! <raising my glass to Huguette!>
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I'm in if you need a bass player or a roadie who no longer wants to move 50lb speaker cabinets. Does it count extra because I have performed with the lead guitarist?