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Jeff said:
General U. S. Grant said:
Tuning question
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JerryR
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Graham said:Steelpickin' said:No way, Graham!!...Look at what you have done!!!
:wink: :wink: :mrgreen: LOL!!!....when you get to playing along with the video clip as you first mentioned...just tune to match the clip.....afterwards,...tune back to standerd. Thats what the rest of us do.
It's supposed to be a secret!!! :wink:
...for anyone else interested:
http://b0b.com/tunings/index.html
Tune it back!! :shock:
Christ almighty. (He said, not really wanting to take The Lords name in vane or anything like that, I guess)
Just take it back to the shop :wink:
The Guilds of Grot
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Since we're discuss "musical ears", here's and interesting musical test I got off of "Talk Bass".
Neuroimaging Laboratory Test
It takes a little while to complete but it gives you a score at the end as to how good of an "ear" you have.
(I just got a 69.4 )
Neuroimaging Laboratory Test
It takes a little while to complete but it gives you a score at the end as to how good of an "ear" you have.
(I just got a 69.4
)danerectal
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The Guilds of Grot said:
Whoo 77.8. That's pretty cool. I wish I weren't at work when I took it.
cjd-player
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Thanks for posting that, Grot.
That was very cool. 8)
That was very cool. 8)
The Guilds of Grot
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So what was your score???
fronobulax
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80.6% Correct
W00t!
W00t!
Steelpickin'
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83.5
cjd-player
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missed 5The Guilds of Grot said:
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'cents' are used 'as in a percentage of.' Since ears and therefore tuning are (mostly) logarithmic it makes sense (pun intended but accurate) to use this form.
Percentages, e.g. 4000 it to 2000 is like 400 to 200, would be the same amount of detuning, AKA 'octave' to tune one's instrument, or 50%. In case the first it was a difference of 2 thousand. In case the second it was 2 hundred. But the percentage remained the same.
Which begs the question; how can a difference of 2000 equal a difference of 200? Answer: that's why it's called logarithmic. and that's how people hear, how they see, and how they smell.
And while tuning to a small extent is individual, there are certain well recognized tempers that are accepted in Western music. (The scope of this comment isn't qualified to speak on 1/8th and 1/4 tones of Eastern and Middle eastern music.) Purely arithmetic tuning does not please the ear. Perhaps a "Well-Tempered Clavier" is the first pun in music history.
You have to 'fudge' some of the pure math to make pleasing chords when working with instruments that can span octaves.
I would suggest trusting in digital tuners, they have the tempering built in. But if nothing else, it's always better to be tuned to the band than be righteous about YOUR tuning. (p.s. Tune to the acoustic piano, they can't changes like git fiddles can.)
p.p.s. I feel so sorry for folks who actually have perfect pitch, (I worked with a bunch who claimed that, but NO!), nothing ever sounds right to them.
Percentages, e.g. 4000 it to 2000 is like 400 to 200, would be the same amount of detuning, AKA 'octave' to tune one's instrument, or 50%. In case the first it was a difference of 2 thousand. In case the second it was 2 hundred. But the percentage remained the same.
Which begs the question; how can a difference of 2000 equal a difference of 200? Answer: that's why it's called logarithmic. and that's how people hear, how they see, and how they smell.
And while tuning to a small extent is individual, there are certain well recognized tempers that are accepted in Western music. (The scope of this comment isn't qualified to speak on 1/8th and 1/4 tones of Eastern and Middle eastern music.) Purely arithmetic tuning does not please the ear. Perhaps a "Well-Tempered Clavier" is the first pun in music history.
You have to 'fudge' some of the pure math to make pleasing chords when working with instruments that can span octaves.
I would suggest trusting in digital tuners, they have the tempering built in. But if nothing else, it's always better to be tuned to the band than be righteous about YOUR tuning. (p.s. Tune to the acoustic piano, they can't changes like git fiddles can.)
p.p.s. I feel so sorry for folks who actually have perfect pitch, (I worked with a bunch who claimed that, but NO!), nothing ever sounds right to them.
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rcadian said:
Don't worry, we're still glad to have you around.
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I've experienced "the tuning doesn't sound right" thing with some students. Quite often it's because the recording was done with a capo on and the tuning not adjusted to compensate for the capo. Normally the capo will sharpen the tuning just a few cents. It's just the mechanical nature of the beast. Also throw into the mix some artist will tune up a step or 2 to get in to a different key and still play "open" just because of the tone" or "perceived tone" of the instrument.
Most folks with an experienced "ear" can tell when something is a few cents off within a group but not many can detect a solo instrument played by it's self that's in tune with it's self but just a few cents off.
Most folks with an experienced "ear" can tell when something is a few cents off within a group but not many can detect a solo instrument played by it's self that's in tune with it's self but just a few cents off.