NGD... in a week or so
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adorshki
Reverential Member
Oh, interesting.
I see what you mean, actual JF30's were only up to 618 by the end of '88.
Now suspect maybe they actually started a higher s/n sequence for the 30-12's before converting to the J23 sequence?
Also, remember those numbers are the last ones in the given year, sequence changes during a year, which is when they usually seem to have happened, have often led to the impression of missing numbers.
So if they only used that JF30 prefix on 'em for a limited period in '87 or even into early '88 before switching to the "J23" system, they'll never show up.
Recently seem to recall some outright bad s/n's on the site compared to actual input from Hans, so there's that possibility that the JF3012 numbers never actually existed, except a similar foofaraw of changes accompany the JF50/JF50-12 and JF55 and JF65 and even JF65R numbers: JF65R0019's a 6-string, JF65R120018's a 12.
Then apparently they spent a couple of years in agonizing indecision about whether to re-instate the time-honored F512 model name or submit to the tyranny of the new system and rename the JF65R12 the JF55-12.
Hey, you were a lawyer, this should all be second nature to you, right?
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Cougar
Enlightened Member
Yeah, that could very well be.
Ha. I wasn't a lawyer; I just did the work of a lawyer. :worked_till_5am: If I was a lawyer, I would have been paid better.
SFIV1967
Venerated Member
No, Hans previously said a JF30-12 with serial # JF300976 is from 1991. So 923 could be 1991 as well. The serial number list is a total screw up in those years.
Ralf
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Cougar
Enlightened Member
Great! Thanks, Ralf!
adorshki
Reverential Member
OK, let's see what the heel block says when it gets there. (IF there's a date stamp there, don't remember if they were doing that in '87)
I know for sure my buddy's is a "J23" in the 200's because when I first asked him what the s/n was the format didn't make any sense to me, had to go back to the charts to "get it".
Never thought to ask him about heelblock date, but he bought it new in late '87 or early '88.
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Also, Wileypickett got one of these a couple of years back, sporting the Limited Edition TRC and an '89 heelblock date but we never asked him about his s/n:
http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sh...ild-JF-30-12-String-1989-Limited-Edition-Blue
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And, hmmm...here's a red one, also "Limited" and s/n looks like a JF3005-something****, purported to be a '92:
https://www.laguitarsales.com/index.php/guild-jf30-12-12-string-jumbo-made-in-westerly.html
I'm beginning to think these "Limiteds" might have been built to order much like F65ce"RB"'s.
Hands has said before they didn't really build a certain number and then stop, they actually just built 'em as anybody who was willing to step up to the price ordered 'em.
****Now that I can take a little closer look at the s/n, it might actually be a "10-something", with the 1 obscured by a string, but that would also fit into Ralf's mention of a 900 number being from '91.
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