NGD 80's S-250

[K.O.M.A.]

This one has been on my local C-List for a long time. He said he would trade for guns so I asked him if he would be interested in an old Mossberg pump I have that someone gave me years ago. He agreed so here it is. It's been re-finned green, and judging by the control cavity it started out blue. It was a nice re-fin job though but unfortunately it wasn't taken care of very well. It has been modified with a locking nut, Kahler trem and pickups. The bridge pickup sounds pretty good actually, the neck not so much. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it but I kind of like it. It came with a Guild case, anyone know what it's for? It's too big to be original to this guitar. I couldn't get a good shot of the serial before my camera battery died. It's AB100226, can one of you experts tell me the exact year? It's also absolutely filthy,and the case is too. I'm going to spend a little while cleaning it and getting to know it a little better. Also, it's missing the TRC, if anyone has one, let me know.

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[hansmoust]

It's been re-finned green, and judging by the control cavity it started out blue. It was a nice re-fin job though but unfortunately it wasn't taken care of very well.

Hello K.O.M.A.,

Looks like the original finish to me, but maybe I wouldn't say that if I had the guitar in my hands.

It's AB100226, can one of you experts tell me the exact year?

That would make it an S-250 from the year 1982.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[SFIV1967]

Since Hans said it looks like the original color I'd say it's the clearcoat nitro that turned yellow over time (see on the binding) and makes the original crystal blue look green. Anything where you see blue has the nitro clearcoat scratched away.
The 1982 catalog had one shown in blue: http://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/graphics/guild82p10.jpg
So the guitar color is actually blue but now looks green.

Regarding the TRC: Check with Ken Nash, he might have a S-250 one: http://www.theguitarmechanic.com/GuildKnobsPickguards.html

Ralf

 

[hansmoust]

Since Hans said it looks like the original color .......

No, I said it looks like the original finish! It's definitely not the original color!

As far as the truss rod cover is concerned, it would be a waste buying an original one for an S-250 and then cut it in half to accommodate the Kahler string clamp. A generic truss rod cover will set you back $ 5.00.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[SFIV1967]

No, I said it looks like the original finish! It's definitely not the original color!

Oh, o.k., it looked from the pictures just like the yellowed nitro was responsible for the recoloring from blue to green.

...it would be a waste buying an original one for an S-250 and then cut it in half to accommodate the Kahler string clamp.

O.k., got it. Didn't notice the changed nut.
Ralf

 

[hansmoust]

Oh, o.k., it looked from the pictures just like the yellowed nitro was responsible for the recoloring from blue to green.

Ralf

Big misunderstanding here! The nitro topcoat is responsible for the blue-turning-green! That's why I said it looks like the original finish. It is not the original color, since it's green now! Got it?

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[SFIV1967]

Big misunderstanding here! The nitro topcoat is responsible for the blue-turning-green! That's why I said it looks like the original finish. It is not the original color, since it's green now! Got it?

I think now I got it! :cheerful: So what I thought is actually correct, but the words "color" and "lacquer" are two different things. English language for foreigners...So let's recap: It is still the original "crystal blue" (or whatever that color was correctly called) "paint" on the guitar and the original color was blue, but due to the yellowed top coat nitro lacquer it now looks green. That was tough...:encouragement: And for K.O.M.A. it's important that it was not refinished in green.
Ralf

 

[walrus]

Either way, I like it! But "un-refinished" is even better!

walrus

 

[K.O.M.A.]

So that blue in the control cavity is the original finish? OK. I like the green color it is now. I was thinking of removing the Kahler and refinishing it but now I'll have to think about it some. I'm definitely not a fan of Kahlers. Anyone know the year or know what the case might have been for originally?

 

[AcornHouse]

Anyone know the year or know what the case might have been for originally?

Check Hans' first post for the year.

 

[SFIV1967]

Anyone know what the case might have been for originally?

Is there by any chance a case number in the compartment inside?
Ralf

 

[K.O.M.A.]

Check Hans' first post for the year.

Good Grief! I completely missed that

 

[K.O.M.A.]

Is there by any chance a case number in the compartment inside?
Ralf

No Ralf, nothing like that. Here are some pics of the case

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[S100]

I'd love to have one of these w/ HB-1s. Cool guitar!

 

[SFIV1967]

The bridge pickup sounds pretty good actually, the neck not so much.

The neck pickup looks like the original Guild XR-7 pickup.
Ralf

 

[hagmeat]

Hey Koma, nice score mate. I think that case is originally for an early 80's M80.
The case for my M80 is exactly the same.

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[K.O.M.A.]

Hey Koma, I think that case is originally for an early 80's M80.
The case for my M80 is exactly the same.

Thanks Hag, that makes sense. It's definitely for something wider than this guitar

 

[txbumper57]

Very nice KOMA, Those are great playing Guilds. As far as the case I have seen the angled resting area inside of yours used for an early X79. Don't know if that is what it is for but I like the peach covering!:single_eye:

Update: Found this when I was doing my evening Guild search. Case looks Identical to yours.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/msg/5132469316.html

 

[SFIV1967]

Case looks Identical to yours.

Except the logo, so it must be from a different time period.
Ralf

 

[K.O.M.A.]

Except the logo, so it must be from a different time period.
Ralf

You're right as usual Ralf. Mine has the Guild logo surrounded by a black oval shape.