New Guild USA GSR models!

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Of you did not know that Westerly closed 20+ years ago it would be very difficult to differentiate the imports from domestic. And this is compounded by a lack of update on serial numbers in the same off time frame. We get questions routinely here about dating, manfacture, etc. from people just discovering the brand.
It's nice that Guild is making some iconic models here. But they are high end and expensive. Many people were introduced to Guild because of high quality and lower cost. And there is but a handful of USA models being produced. Retailers webpages are overflowing with the import stuff. As is Ebay, Reverb. And with the vintage series, Westerly series, it gets very complicated, especially for people who do not know the original series etc.
 

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I say it again , I don’t know my butt from a hole in the ground what I know ? absolutely nothing . It’s just the way I see it .
RAY Speak rules !!!!
Ps I didn’t proof read , now I’m to tired to go over it. Al fix it ! 😂🤣
Generally speaking, if you can put your foot in it, it's a hole in the ground.
 

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Okay as long as everyone is chiming in on what they DON'T like about these, I'll play along. First, satin finish.

+1. My '11 NH F-30RCE had a satin neck and also up to the back of the headstock. The neck is now gloss from playing it, but the headstock back is still satin. YMMV, but I would not have bought it with a satin finish throughout the whole guitar.

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Giving the willingness of Guild to muddle model numbers, it seems in character to use "GSR" to mean something different than it did at New Hartford.
I saw the photos and nearly wept as I read, "Our very own “Guild Special Run” guitars are ... at the forefront of acoustic design and aesthetics."
We certainly have different understandings of "Special Run" let alone "forefront." To my mind "Guild's Superfluous Renditions" might be more apropos.
To quote Sandy, "Yuck."
 

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To repeat myself. Sometime right after the sale an LTG member talked to someone from CMG about LTG at a trade show. Contact info was exchanged and the conversation was referred to me. The CMG person was focused on social media and wasn't sure how LTG fit in to that. If CMG "used" LTG, CMG wanted a lot of control which would mean either a thread that only CMG could post to or a thread where all posts were moderated. CMG did not want more than one person who could be identified as a CMG employee posting because they wanted to control the messaging and public image. LTG wanted to maintain their independence. The end result was the realization that LTG did not fit into CMGs social media and marketing strategy.

I believe that CMG does monitor LTG although it may be a bot that views content that is Public and not Members Only. CMG used to list LTG as a resource in www.guildguitars.com but when I went to find it for a citation, it was gone. So they may have tech metrics that indicated no one ever clicked on the link or they may have been monitoring and decided they no longer wanted potential customers reading LTG or the link is just harder to find than I remember.

We should also remember that Facebook has an order of magnitude more people folling Guild than LTG has members so LTG is not the best "bang for the buck".

LTG>CMG

and the way they are going right now, LTG will be around a lot longer than CMG, certainly longer than their Oxnard/USA Guild factory. They make some nice guitars there, but the company is making some questionable moves and I am not just talking about guitar features and model designations. they want social media, well, they got it. and it is not all positive, which is their own doing. there are even accusations that I don't agree with, but by not addressing them, they are making a default plea (no pun intended! i don't think!)
 

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I have always been a Guild guy. For almost 50 years now they were my guitar of choice. In high school in the 1970s I made a Guild design in my silkscreen class. I don't think Guild was making shirts that were commercially available then. There was no internet to find them if they did! I had my own. When everyone was buying the other, more famous brands of guitar I bought and played Guilds. I even sought out their strings, as I preferred them. So it is with sadness that I comment negatively. I wish it could be constructive criticism! I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens!
 

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Made in Asia?
Made in America. The context of using it in opposition to "imports" should have made that clear.

This may be the first time on LTG that the A had to be spelled out. But it might not be the last if people insist of an acronym for made in Korea, China and Indonesia.
 
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I am happy to see them getting some limited edition stuff out there again, but would really love to see something more exciting and unique. These look pretty standard in my opinion. At those price points you get a lot of options these days.
 

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I dunno, been looking at them since last night...personally I think the Chesterfield looks kinda GAD-ish. The Chesterfields just never looked right post NH to me
II thought I was the only one. I really like the Oxnards, "kinda GAD-ish" is a perfect description.

Made in America. The context of using it in opposition to "imports" should have made that clear.

This may be the first time on LTG that the A had to be spelled out. But it might not be the last if people insist of an acronym for made in Korea, China and Indonesia.

Mikey was closer than I was. I was very quickly skimming the thread and thought it meant "Missing In Action". But I'm still working on my first cup of coffee.🥴
 

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Mikey was closer than I was. I was very quickly skimming the thread and thought it meant "Missing In Action". But I'm still working on my first cup of coffee.🥴


The snark was strong because I felt like the meaning should have been obvious which triggered my annoyance when people skim and not read, but the truth is that it wasn't listed in the FAQ until I just added it so I need to adjust my attitude :)

I will note that it gets tedious typing all the places Guilds were/are made besides the USA and replacing that with "imports" doesn't mean the same thing to an LTGer who is not in the USA. So, in spite of my initial annoyance, an opportunity for clarity in writing was identified.
 

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The snark was strong because I felt like the meaning should have been obvious which triggered my annoyance when people skim and not read, but the truth is that it wasn't listed in the FAQ until I just added it so I need to adjust my attitude :)

What's FAQ stand for?

(Kidding Frono, kidding...)
 

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What's FAQ stand for?

(Kidding Frono, kidding...)


The polite was of saying f*ck you, as in "f*ck you, read the f*ck you"?

Non-English speakers or English speakers without certain accents are going to see/hear absolutely none of the intended humor.
 

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Made in America. The context of using it in opposition to "imports" should have made that clear.

This may be the first time on LTG that the A had to be spelled out. But it might not be the last if people insist of an acronym for made in Korea, China and Indonesia.
With a little juxtaposition you could have an acronym from Made in China, Korea, and Indonesia, or "Micki".
Which of course begs for "Mouse".

I thought HeyMikey was being "coy", but I suspect the deadpan delivery got by you. ;)
 
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