New Guild USA GSR models!

[geoguy]

The choice of name set up some expectations which are not being met

Exactly.

 

[richardp69]

No, I've seen at least 3 other dealers with the F 40 GSR.

 

[Rayk]

To me that’s a low blow to original GSR models . If these cost more then the standard models you can put them where the sun won’t sun . They look like any other plain Jane guitar to me .

 

[Rayk]

Still cool they are trying. But I don’t associate GSR with satin finish.

Trying ? Trying to do what exactly? Lol

when these get out to the used market theymuddle up everything just like F-40 does for me . Having to sort through 1,000 F40 jumbo’s to find the F40 OM .

now their throwing in the GSR label in plain Jane guitars . So when your looking for a GSR you get something that has nothing to do with what’s in your head and expect. So will this kill the real GSR value ?

I find it irritating and it gets a “F” come into my office , why ?, because your _ _ _ _ ‘n Fired !

Hugs

 

[Rich Cohen]

There is one man in charge, which reflects his decisions on identity.

Ralph

Well then, good luck, Cordoba.

 

[Westerly Wood]

Trying ? Trying to do what exactly? Lol

when these get out to the used market theymuddle up everything just like F-40 does for me . Having to sort through 1,000 F40 jumbo’s to find the F40 OM .

now their throwing in the GSR label in plain Jane guitars . So when your looking for a GSR you get something that has nothing to do with what’s in your head and expect. So will this kill the real GSR value ?

I find it irritating and it gets a “F” come into my office , why ?, because your _ _ _ _ ‘n Fired !

Hugs

i am just trying to be encouraging...

 

[richardp69]

I don't have the hate thing going on with Cordoba. I personally, think they're doing some fine things out there. However, I think they did whiff on the D 40 GSR and F 40 GSR though.

 

[fronobulax]

No, I've seen at least 3 other dealers with the F 40 GSR.

So much for that hypothesis. Thanks.

 

[Default]

I think they should hark back to the time in Guild's history when all the acoustic guitars had a sparkle finish option. Maybe a bunch of black sparkle d55's?

 

[chazmo]

Wow, lotsa' hating on Cordoba here, guys. Personally, not a fan of the D-40 burst or the double PG, but I like the F-40 'burst.

 

[Default]

But for 4k you would expect a bit more than a paint job and an extra pickguard.

But what do I know, I paid stupid money for my GSRs and Fender made out like a bandit on them.

 

[Rayk]

i am just trying to be encouraging...

Bah ! I want OM’s and that thing that Al wants not googley moogly satin over stock !

 

[Westerly Wood]

Bah ! I want OM’s and that thing that Al wants not googley moogly satin over stock !

and good point, i bet it is overstock...let nothing go to waste and let's ramp marketing up and go for it.

i wonder if Guild had other suitors besides CMG when the brand went up for sale. i would liked to have known the other options.

 

[davismanLV]

My opinion: Cordoba is over thinking its strategy, and not respecting Guild history. Cordoba needs to defend the Guild credibility while protecting its bottom-line. Tweaking Guild "standards" in the wrong ways will ultimately fail. In the end, Guild must continue to compete with Gibson and Taylors, etc., otherwise weaken the brand's reputation as an outsider who deserves respect.

Well, here's the thing. I think Cordoba MG is doing a great job with Guild. And because I don't like a couple of new models or special releases means nothing. And I don't agree with the satin finish, but that's a personal thing. Apparently, they're more popular these days. Not with ME, but in general. Also, keep in mind doing things the same over and over is boring. Remember that what they do today BECOMES Guild history tomorrow. Setting new goals and change is all part of it. I'm sure Westerly probably had a couple of models that didn't pan out for them. And I'm not familiar with Gibson enough to say, but Taylor is always changing, improving, modifying and staying current at the forefront (think V-bracing) and always willing to embrace new colors and finishes. What holds value and endures is for history to decide. And if Sweetwater or CME has enough money to buy a whole new run of guitars or several runs, that's good business and puts money in their pocket regardless of how we personally feel. That's a good thing. That's a lot of guitars bought and paid for. So while I may not care for satin, or dual pickguards, I'm not buying a guitar right now, and someone else IS!!

So I'm gonna hold off on the hate and let Cordoba get on with making Guilds and just watch and see how they do. I think they're really doing a great job. Listen to what Richard says, he's bought more than most of us and gives them rave reviews. Isn't that enough to be getting on with???

 

[Rayk]

Well, here's the thing. I think Cordoba MG is doing a great job with Guild. And because I don't like a couple of new models or special releases means nothing. And I don't agree with the satin finish, but that's a personal thing. Apparently, they're more popular these days. Not with ME, but in general. Also, keep in mind doing things the same over and over is boring. Remember that what they do today BECOMES Guild history tomorrow. Setting new goals and change is all part of it. I'm sure Westerly probably had a couple of models that didn't pan out for them. And I'm not familiar with Gibson enough to say, but Taylor is always changing, improving, modifying and staying current at the forefront (think V-bracing) and always willing to embrace new colors and finishes. What holds value and endures is for history to decide. And if Sweetwater or CME has enough money to buy a whole new run of guitars or several runs, that's good business and puts money in their pocket regardless of how we personally feel. That's a good thing. That's a lot of guitars bought and paid for. So while I may not care for satin, or dual pickguards, I'm not buying a guitar right now, and someone else IS!!

So I'm gonna hold off on the hate and let Cordoba get on with making Guilds and just watch and see how they do. I think they're really doing a great job. Listen to what Richard says, he's bought more than most of us and gives them rave reviews. Isn't that enough to be getting on with???

There’s not a ounce of seriousness behind my words maybe it’s more a Awe shucks . Lol

 

[Rich Cohen]

Well, here's the thing. I think Cordoba MG is doing a great job with Guild. And because I don't like a couple of new models or special releases means nothing. And I don't agree with the satin finish, but that's a personal thing. Apparently, they're more popular these days. Not with ME, but in general. Also, keep in mind doing things the same over and over is boring. Remember that what they do today BECOMES Guild history tomorrow. Setting new goals and change is all part of it. I'm sure Westerly probably had a couple of models that didn't pan out for them. And I'm not familiar with Gibson enough to say, but Taylor is always changing, improving, modifying and staying current at the forefront (think V-bracing) and always willing to embrace new colors and finishes. What holds value and endures is for history to decide. And if Sweetwater or CME has enough money to buy a whole new run of guitars or several runs, that's good business and puts money in their pocket regardless of how we personally feel. That's a good thing. That's a lot of guitars bought and paid for. So while I may not care for satin, or dual pickguards, I'm not buying a guitar right now, and someone else IS!!

So I'm gonna hold off on the hate and let Cordoba get on with making Guilds and just watch and see how they do. I think they're really doing a great job. Listen to what Richard says, he's bought more than most of us and gives them rave reviews. Isn't that enough to be getting on with???

It’s true, Tom, when guild was at Tacoma it did experiment with changes that later became GSRs at NH which turned out to be really special. Maybe I’m premature in my criticism.

 

[SFIV1967]

Are these models available from any other dealer besides Chicago Musical Exchange?

No, I've seen at least 3 other dealers with the F 40 GSR.

I have not sees 3 others (where?) but at least one more, and just one serial number apart from one of the CME ones!

Guild USA GSR F-40E Traditional Satin - Antique Burst

This is a one-off GSR (Guild Special Run) model that we were fortunate to acquire. Based on the F-40 Traditional, but with a super-thin satin lacquer, gold tuners, an LR Baggs pickup system, and a handcut celluloid pickguard, this is a true one of a kind piece that looks and sounds fantastic...

harrysguitarshop.com

Ralf

 

[GGJaguar]

Wow, lotsa' hating on Cordoba here

Not hating, just frustrated with some of the things they are doing and not doing. The factory guys know how to build a quality instrument and I love my F-412 made in Oxnard. It's the guys in the front office that make me crazy.

 

[Default]

It's not hate on my part, just disappointment in how pedestrian these GSRs are. Maybe if they scalloped the braces or used a different species of wood, but these don't look like something I would open my wallet for.

 

[SFIV1967]

Maybe if they scalloped the braces ...

Read the specs: "scalloped Adirondack braces "

Ralf