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Unfortunately, this one just came up here on CL! My favorite year and model. "Unfortunately"--because I sure don't need another hobby. Argghhh.


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I'll admit that I don't know what kind of car that is, but I do appreciate the art deco-like body lines. (y)
 

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Like I said.
"Fix or Repair Daily", "Found on road dead" all of the old time chuckles about FoMoCo products apply here.
Only US maker to take on Ferrari at LeMans and win.
Twice. :geek:

Granted it was the world's biggest grudge match: Ford was out to humiliate Ferrari for having run out on the wedding at the altar, and I'm a big Ferrari fan too (because of F1: only maker to to make the whole car AND show up at EVERY race since the series was founded in 1950) as detailed in the movie Ford vs Ferrari

Hank the Deuce was so p---ed of he handed the GT40 development program a blank check.

They got infinitely better after they teamed up with Mazda in the '80's and learned something about QC. :)

I used to be in the GM loyalist school myself until my first ('80) RX-7showed me what a real sports car felt and handled like..and actually sold Ford for a while in '92 and lusted after a Thunderbird Super Coupe. Finally scratched that itch in '08 with a 50 kmi 2nd owner example that looked just like this:

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Yes that car had a couple of Achilles' heels as noted in that article, but they were tech limitations, not poor design. First car I ever drove I liked as much as my RX7s. Only thing an RX-7 would do better was a hill climb on the tight little switchbacks running up the Santa Cruz mountains on the western side of Silicon Valley.

The 1990 model had highest output of all Ford vehicles that year including Mustang 5.0's, beat 'em on torque: 315 vs 300 for the 5.0, what's more, it was all in at 2200 rpm. Y'had to wait for it with Mustangs, Corvettes, and Camaros. :geek:

Better yet, handled like a dream.
 

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I'll admit that I don't know what kind of car that is, but I do appreciate the art deco-like body lines. (y)
'53 Hudson Hornet:
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Hornets were immortalized by this '51:
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"By 1951, Oldsmobile and Cadillac already had overhead valve engines on the market, and Lincoln and Chrysler weren’t far behind -- it looked like the writing was on the wall for flathead engines. Yet despite being technologically inferior (or at least outdated), Hudson’s valve-in-block straight-six-powered Hornet was a stock car and NASCAR staple. In 1951, behind the wheel of a Hudson Hornet, Marshall Teague won five of the 15 NASCAR Grand National races. His performance in ’51 lead to his AAA Stock Car Driver of the Year crown, that same year...
The Hudson’s success on the track was due to its “step-down” body design, which denotes a recessed floor pan that lowered the car’s center of gravity. The flathead straight-six engine’s incredible torque also helped it out-power the Old’s overhead valve V8. "

Inline 6's are inherently torquey, why Jaguar and BMW used 'em extensively and why they made such good truck motors back in the day.
And as any veteran car salesman will tell you: Horsepower's just a number that gets 'em in the door, but what they buy is torque. ;)
 

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I have nothing but great memories of my 1988 Bronco, loved everything about it (with maybe the exception of the fuel efficiency).
The looks with the two tone job (mine was dark blue with beige top), the torque for towing the boat, the smooth all around power, the "captain" chairs in front with arm rests, the power rear window, everything was cool about this vehicle. That's the only ford I ever owned, and never was tempted by anything they made since, save the GT40. 😻
 
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My Dad had two '55 Cadillac Sedan DeVilles, Baby Blue. He drove one and used the other for parts. He used to enjoy watching the gas station attendant look around for the gas cap, then he would finally tell them - it was under the driver's side taillight, you had to pull up on it to expose the gas cap.

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His next Cadillac was a '66 Calais; there wasn't a smooth line anywhere on that car.

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Being from the anthracite coal region of NE PA I opted for a 4x4 for the many untamed trails and roads as a kid. Bought a new '73 IH Scout II for $5.1k and when Corvette's cost $6k. Normal cars were $3k to $3.5k. I was young and had the guts to do some pretty crazy things with it. Took it to "Central Spring Works" to get it jacked up a bit. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures but I stumbled onto a picture on the web with one very close looking to mine except my lift package was about 3" less than this one. Other than that its a dead ringer for mine.

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I don't flame. Live and let live. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion (even if they're wrong and I'm right ;)).

My stepson, a Jeep freak, had a Jeep freak friend who worked as a come-to-you mechanic. The friend built his own FrankenJeep from parts from different other Jeeps. He carried all his work stuff in back, including the computer analysis get-up he just got, tools, and everything. He stopped for lunch and was going into the restaurant when he heard a "pop". He turned around to see the Jeep he built was on fire. He lost his computer and a bunch of tools.

I don't know why it burned, gas or electric, and it was certainly most unfortunate that it happened, but I don't think I'll be calling him to come fix anything.


For the record, I've never owned a Ford (except for a really cool ancient Stepvan, an old Wonderbread rig converted into a little RV), just seen a lot of them give their owners fits, not last as long as they'd hoped, neighbors who had to have a tranny replaced every two years, etc.

Next up on my list of vehicular nemeses, Chevys... Just weren't made of the stuff my Mopars were made of. I'd go out drag racing all night, next morning, engine would sound like nothing happened. Buddy's Chevy 327's would throw rods doing the same thing, or somebody's wife would come into the house screaming "what the h did you do to the car", but anyway, not to pick on other people's cars...

So I'm working at a driveline shop fresh out of school, and this guy brings a '75 Blazer in, won't pass emissions, and there's like 3 techs working on it, and none are getting anywhere. Mike's a Ford guy and he's no help, the other two are the owner's sons, one is terrible at stuff - a trial and error mechanic - and the other is better at building monster trucks than he is finessing a Qjet into working properly.

I was probably the only one in the room that had a clue, and I offered advice here and there. Somehow they ended up putting an Edelbrock 4bbl on it, and an electric fuel pump, unregulated. I tried to tell em you can't put an electric fuel pump in a carburated system without a regulator, but they weren't listening. It was running ok and passing emissions, and out the door it went.

The next morning, I walk into the shop, a bunch of long faces huddled by the work bench. I'm like "what's up?" and Ed Jr. goes "didn't you see it when you drove in? Look outside" And I look through the bay windows and the Blazer is sitting there, charred. The Blazer blazed it appeared. The guy made it down town like three miles down the road, smelled gas real strong and bailed just before the cab was engulfed in flames.

Even though I'm low man on the totem pole. lowest paid guy in the shop, I'm getting the blame. Ed Sr. says "pack your tools, you're outta here". I obliged and before too long got a much better job ;]

A couple year later, I went to look at some gorgeous NM Garand a guy had in the paper, and lo and behold, it's the Blazer guy, Ed S., retired cop, and he says "Hey, I remember you, they blamed you for the Blazer and I know it wasn't your fault". That felt nice.

Guilded talks about Fords breaking down, but want's a British sports car? Yes the "Big Healy" is nice to look at, but...

I've had some of the most smiles per mile behind the wheel of an English car, a pre-Naderized Triumph GT-6, never gave me much trouble at all, went on umpteen road trips in that car, the fondest memories, never had a single breakdown. Also an impressive list of British bikes, BSA Victors, BSA C15, Norton P11 Atlas Scambler, 1960 Matchless G80TCS Typhoon Competition Scrambler, Triumph Cubs, Triumph T100C, and hardly ever had any electrical trouble. I'm not a big adherent to "Lucas, Price of Darkness". I think a lot of crappy bike mechanics blamed their inadequacies on whatever they could, anything but themselves.

The Matchless with a separate Magneto and the off road Victors with Energy Transfer ignition were actually some of the most reliable bikes I've ever had.
 
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Forgot to mention, had Vega hatchback (1st car, loved it, actually) I traded for a beastly '67 Camaro (late blossoming hot rod lust at 18, possibly the worst car I ever owned, maybe tied with a Fiat X1-9).

Around '87 bought a '70 Olds Cutlass S 350 from old GF's father:

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Loved the lines on those suckers, especially the little arch on the rear fender blending perfectly into the body contours..mine was like the gold one except had the black vinyl roof. That was my introduction to "gentlemen's hotrods".

To this day still think it was one of the most beautiful American production designs ever built, like "top 15" maybe? (I'd put Tom's '58 Impala in there, too, especially for this little detail alone, the little set of vents on the roof, way cool, but fender skirts only a low rider could love :ROFLMAO:) :

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Anyway, bought the Olds at 58k and blew the rear transmission seal at about 63k going "over the hill" to Santa Cruz one day. Powered up from 50 to about 70 on a nice long 1/2 mil incline and knew the next couple of curves were roomy enough to be able to deal with a slow car and I'd be coasting by that time anyway, when a cloud of smoke starts trailing the car...hmmmm....don't seem to be getting any power, either.... uh-oh, time to minimize the damage.

Fortunately was at the crest where there was little restaurant and could call for tow easily enough.

Car had actually spent the first 50k on the streets of San Francisco, driven by lady in her 50's, but still, probably put a little extra wear and tear on tranny, suspension, and brakes.

So while tranny was being rebuilt, had 'em check the compression: 165 +/- 1.3lb all around. :) So told 'em to add a shift kit to the tranny rebuild. :)

About a year later had the front end rebuilt. In that condition, was coming back from Santa Cruz one afternoon, into a long sweeper known as the "Valley Surprise" as it tightens up at the bottom when the first view of Silicon Valley is seen, distracting a driver.

Even though I was familiar with the road, I did have to back off coming into the apex, was doing about 90, steering wasn't locked up, but at the apex the whole car just kind of shifted outward, sideways, maybe a couple of feet. Never lost its composure. :love: By that time had scrubbed off speed to about 70 and the rest of the road's a pretty forgiving ride while coasting downhill at sensible (50's) speeds. :)

I figured I'd unintentionally found the car's limits but never pushed it that hard again, except once a couple months later, late night, clear road, coming down the last 'cline to the valley floor pushed it to 105 at the start of a couple-mile long straightaway. Think I only went that fast once later on, in the Super Coupe.

Got the RX-7 while I still owned the Cutlass, so had both ends of the spectrum covered for a few years, there. Was in my early 30's, working at Heathkit-owned-by-Zenith for the best money I'd ever made, life was good. 🍺

Looked just like this, except I had the flip-up removable sunroof.

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Cast wheels were jewels.

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The little vents on the trailing edge of the B pillar, and the black covers for the hatch hinges at the trailing edge of the top, like a fighter plane.
To die for, especially when the top's hi-lit by the sunroof outlined in black, too. And the scoop for the license plate and its lights.

They even integrated the bumpers perfectly, too, with the narrow high rub-strip. My favorite overall version.

Had an '85 with the roof, too:
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So you could drive in the rain with the roof cracked open like that, it was operated by a little rotating knob right at the back edge easy to reach, and even with a tail end wind the interior'd stay dry. If you took the roof all the way out and stowed it with built-in straps on the hatch floor, a little spoiler flipped up to break the airflow at the front edge of the hatch and interior air remained calm. :geek:

The ergonomics in that car were amazing, too. Handling? Felt like Chuck Taylors (hi-tops) compared to waffle-stompers. (Remember those? :))
More like crawling on hands and knees, actually, like, you can't lose your grip in the corner, right?! :ROFLMAO:

Acquired that first RX from original owner buddy for $1200 with 111k, excellently maintained. Loved the lines on 'em so much, I'd told him a couple of years before to give me first dibs when it came time to sell, and so it came to pass. So much fun to drive I wound up buying 5 of 'em over the years and even had 3 at once for a short while. Rotor motors. Love 'em to death.

Despite whatever you hear, those little rotary engines are bullet proof as long as they're properly maintained, especially oil changes.

A 4-rotor RX-7 GTP car won Le Mans overall in '91, first Japanese make and first rotary engine to do it:

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So, RX-7 vs Cutlass 350 story time:
Took a date to a beach north of Santa Cruz one day, US 1, beautiful views and long straights on that part of road, fairly light traffic.
Drove the RX-7.

On the way home, spied a familiar silhouette maybe a 1/4 mile ahead: one of my beloved '70 Cutlasses. I tell my date: "I had one of those once, lemme give you a closer look". So get on it a little from 70, instant response, am getting within 50 yards when he starts accelerating.
Quick check of speedo shows 80, rpms about 3800 in a motor designed to rev to plus 7500 easily (while the torque just keeps feedin' in.. 😃)
Tell my date: "I think he's trying to blow off my RX, but watch.."

NO problem maintaining about a 5-6 car gap (Was trying to demonstrate some "civility" to him) for about a 1/4 mile while he's getting up to just over 90 when the tell-tale smoke starts trailing from under the car...not the exhaust... and he starts coasting and pulls over.

Sorry, Charlie. I think I know what the problem is, but you may not want to talk to me right now.....🙃
And proceeded happily home at sensible speeds for sushi. 🍺:cool:

And desert.

Still had my 5th one when I found the Super Coupe.

So I was well-equipped to appreciate the SC's supremely refined qualities. A better gentleman's hotrod than the Cutlass, and in fact even a better overall car than the RX-7s, losing out only on reliability and the afore-mentioned hillclimb. It was just too heavy to take the hairpins as nimbly as an RX.

That's my story and I'm stickin' with it.
 

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"I've had some of the most smiles per mile behind the wheel of an English car, a pre-Naderized Triumph GT-6, never gave me much trouble at all, "

Man. I hope that is our experience too. You did see my Car projects thread, right?

" Lucas electronics are the spawn of the devil " , " British sports cars leak oil on purpose. It's keeps the dust down on the roads. "

Heck, even the Triumph forum I hang out in had enough people scoff and my goal to have a leak free, reliable, GT6. They all said I better carry tools and spare parts in the boot. Are you sure that wasn't a unicorn you drove?
 

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I have nothing but great memories of my 1988 Bronco, loved everything about it (with maybe the exception of the fuel efficiency).
The looks with the two tone job (mine was dark blue with beige top), the torque for towing the boat, the smooth all around power, the "captain" chairs in front with arm rests, the power rear window, everything was cool about this vehicle. That's the only ford I ever owned, and never was tempted by anything they made since, save the GT40. 😻
I test-drove a '20 Mustang with the new IRS and the 4cyl turbo just to see what it had, besides.

Was happily surprised. Felt almost if not as good as I remember an RX, maybe the best replacement for a new car with a warranty, or certified pre-owned a couple years down the road.

Base seats were unliveable, though. And wish I could just get a nice V-6 instead of the 4 or 8. You know me, more about handling and good "real world street performance" than "competition level" machines, at least for my daily driver...:geek:

Think they're beautiful, too. Definitely on my radar. :cool:
 

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'53 Hudson Hornet:
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Hornets were immortalized by this '51:
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"By 1951, Oldsmobile and Cadillac already had overhead valve engines on the market, and Lincoln and Chrysler weren’t far behind -- it looked like the writing was on the wall for flathead engines. Yet despite being technologically inferior (or at least outdated), Hudson’s valve-in-block straight-six-powered Hornet was a stock car and NASCAR staple. In 1951, behind the wheel of a Hudson Hornet, Marshall Teague won five of the 15 NASCAR Grand National races. His performance in ’51 lead to his AAA Stock Car Driver of the Year crown, that same year...
The Hudson’s success on the track was due to its “step-down” body design, which denotes a recessed floor pan that lowered the car’s center of gravity. The flathead straight-six engine’s incredible torque also helped it out-power the Old’s overhead valve V8. "

Inline 6's are inherently torquey, why Jaguar and BMW used 'em extensively and why they made such good truck motors back in the day.
And as any veteran car salesman will tell you: Horsepower's just a number that gets 'em in the door, but what they buy is torque. ;)
My Studebaker mechanic (who unfortunately for me moved to Oregon in the early '90s) also had Hudsons. On one of them he'd swapped out the flathead six for an aluminum Buick V8--after driving it that way for a few years he decided to put another Hudson 6 in it Those Hudson pistons were huge!
One day I was driving my Studebaker back from his shop in Oceanside and as I was getting on the freeway a Hornet passed me going at least 90.
I called my mechanic the next day as I could tell from the blur it hadn't been one of his.
"Oh, that was Old Man Jenkin's Hudson--he used to have a dealership up here. Yeah, he gets pulled over for speeding all the time, and always tells the judge "Now your Honor, how could an old man like me in an old car like that drive that fast?'"
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This dealership was on the corner of Manchester and Western in L.A.--a block from the first house I lived in. I remember
walking by it every time we'd go to the Von's Market on the next block south when I was four.
The other thing I remember is that a Hudson was always the last car to remain in demolition derbies. I'd asked my mechanic
why that was and he said the way the cars were designed there was only way to take them out--one had to hit them just right
at a particular angle at the front to drive a radiator support into the core--then they might eventually lose their coolant.
Supposedly designers from Volvo had studied the Hudson safety cage design to eventually use on their cars.
 

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My wife sitting on our '51 Land Cruiser the first day I brought it home back in August '86...
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After she drove it the first time, I had to buy her a Silver Hawk as she no longer wanted to drive the Toyota truck. We restored her Hawk first, but then it was too nice for her to drive to work so we got her a Lark wagon. Then our friend got married, and as his new wife said he had too many cars Vicki bought his '51 Champion. As soon as I found a good running '59 Stude truck we sold the rice burner. That was one of the reasons I got hooked on Guilds--you guys had the same mental process that Stude drivers possess--a loyalty to a brand that is basically ignored by the general public--substitute Ford and Chevy
for Martin and Gibson or Fender and Gibson. Most all of the Studebaker people I'd run into had many more than one, and at least (for now) Guilds
don't have to get registered every year or carry liability insurance. If I couldn't have Studebakers I would love to get into Hudsons (pre-Nash engine) but parts are much scarcer, so I would probably go Mopar as our family had nothing but Dodges until the late '60s.
 

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My GT-6 never leaked a drop of oil. Never used any oil.

Again, sounds like poor mechanics who don't know how to put a gasket on right, this would cover a lot of people...

The worst problem I ever had was this mysterious power loss I couldn't figure out. One day I was dinking around under that wonderful flip up hood and figured it out. The mechanism that syncs both carbs was slipping, and one of the carbs was closing back down while your foot was still in it, powerful return springs on the SU carbs altitude compensating carbs I reckon. All it was was a loose screw.

The suspension was probably the worst part, not a lot of travel.

One morning, I was grabbing a Hazelnut Latte on special as I was about to hit the road for a long drive to Lewiston ID for an antique show, I hit a dip just below the freeway onramp and the latte exploded in my lap. There was nothing to do but keep driving.

When I got to Lewiston, I had a giant stain right in the crotch of my khaki shorts, and I was never able to stand the smell of a Hazelnut Latte after that, smell reminded me of rat pee.

I drove it year around, in the snow, it did great. I had the local muffler man eliminate any sort of muffler or "resonator", just straight pipe out to the bumper, way ahead of the curve of the latter day street racers and their fart cans.

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I drive an ultra reliable 1995 Subaru Legacy 2.2l/5sp wagon. I still carry an ultra comprehensive tool kit, and a box of spares behind the passenger seat comprising of; An alternator, an in tank electric fuel pump, fuel filter, air filter, plugs, fuses and relays, wiper blades, some misc bits. Heck I even have a brand new front CV drive axle on hand (same part for both side because of symmetrical AWD) I can throw in the car if I was to take a long trip.

I also carry a Schumaker battery pack/air compressor which I can recharge in the car via a 12' male to male 12V charging cord that can go from the cigarette lighter to the back of the car, as well as a Uniden Marine radio/antenna that can get out over police/fire frequencies, as a well as emergency stuff in the cartop carrier, blankets, sleeping pad to get under car, anti skid plates for the tires, a shovel, etc.

Inside the car I have more emergency stuff, food, water, and maybe one of the most important things of all, a fire extinguisher.

In the cigarette lighter socket, I have a voltmeter plugged in, green readout to match my dash gauges, reads constantly from the moment you start the car, 13.9, 14V, comforting readings. I wouldn't leave the yard without that little device. I like to know my volts at all times. One too many dead alternators over the years.

I never ever give anyone a jump. Sure way to blow the diode trio in your alternator.

I only put non ethanol premium in my car, the expensive stuff for small engines.
 
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Need another internet time user? (I hesitate to say "waster".)

I have recently been considering fixing the Bronco versus getting another one and in looking around the internet found a site with gorgeous vehicles!

There's a Bronco in Ft. Worth that makes my knees weak, but, alas does not fit the budget. The vehicle descriptions I've read are good, too. In the Bronco description he sings the praises of the classic full sized Bronco and then calls the new return Bronco for 2021 a four cylinder weirdo, and I have to say I concur, with a chuckle.

In any event the site is https://www.streetsideclassics.com.

No affiliation at all. I wish there were because maybe I could get an employee discount on that Bronco.

I hope you have fun looking.
Hehehehe. Hi Cynthia. I could go on all day about cars and trucks. But, since Ford has basically given up passenger cars and has thrown in their hat completely as an SUV/truck manufacturer, it's interesting to watch what's going on.

I think the new Bronco line is really cool. They are clearly going after the Jeep (Wrangler/CJ) market, and I think they stand a good chance of clobbering them.

Caveat: I will never by another Jeep (Chrysler) or Ford product as I have been disappointed (that's an understatement) by them before. Having said that, it turns out there's a Ford engine in my 2010 Miata which is really excellent. So, parts maybe.... :) Be well!
 

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My Studebaker mechanic (who unfortunately for me moved to Oregon in the early '90s) also had Hudsons. On one of them he'd swapped out the flathead six for an aluminum Buick V8--after driving it that way for a few years he decided to put another Hudson 6 in it Those Hudson pistons were huge!
One day I was driving my Studebaker back from his shop in Oceanside and as I was getting on the freeway a Hornet passed me going at least 90.
I called my mechanic the next day as I could tell from the blur it hadn't been one of his.
"Oh, that was Old Man Jenkin's Hudson--he used to have a dealership up here. Yeah, he gets pulled over for speeding all the time, and always tells the judge "Now your Honor, how could an old man like me in an old car like that drive that fast?'"
HUDSON.jpg
This dealership was on the corner of Manchester and Western in L.A.--a block from the first house I lived in. I remember
walking by it every time we'd go to the Von's Market on the next block south when I was four.
The other thing I remember is that a Hudson was always the last car to remain in demolition derbies. I'd asked my mechanic
why that was and he said the way the cars were designed there was only way to take them out--one had to hit them just right
at a particular angle at the front to drive a radiator support into the core--then they might eventually lose their coolant.
Supposedly designers from Volvo had studied the Hudson safety cage design to eventually use on their cars.
My grandparents lived in West Los Angeles, near the beach and my dad moved us out to the San Fernando Valley in Woodland Hills. Back then the Sepulveda pass was a two lanes each way road, no freeway yet so dad's work travel was out Topanga Canyon to Pacific Coast Highway and then down the coast to Santa Monica/WLA. My granddad's old '52 Ford was getting old and starting to burn oil. Papa's brother in Denver had a 1953 Hudson Hornet that was like new!! And he was at the point where he wasn't hardly driving at all. So they swapped cars. That Hudson was a TANK!! Good thing because they were coming to my birthday party, up the coast and winding in on Topanga Canyon (super winding and narrow) when a guy fell asleep at the wheel of his '60 Bel Air and hit them head on. The steering column broke Papa's jaw in 3 places, but my poor grandmother was almost killed. The worst was her crushed femur and broken hip. Little bits of bone just floating around in there. Took years for her to recover and become ambulatory again. The cops that showed up said if they hadn't been in that Hudson, they'd have been dead, which I fully believe.

That route was my dad's trip home and when he came upon that mustard colored Hudson Hornet, he knew immediately what it was. Those Hudsons were big and heavy and you mentioning their cage design brought the memories all back to me! That Ford they'd had would've been toast!!
 

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Having said that, it turns out there's a Ford engine in my 2010 Miata which is really excellent. So, parts maybe.... :) Be well!
Maybe a matter of "semantic interpretation", but that engine was designed and originally produced by Mazda, with Ford building and massaging it extensively for different applications:

Mazda also designed and built the 1.18 liter 16v DOHC engine used in the early '90's Escort GT and '94-'97 Miatas when the Ford/Mazda collusion was at its height.
 

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Never knew the Avanti was a Studibaker! Only knew of one Avanti in the area I grew up and checked it out whenever it came by. Thought it was an European import!
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