Headstock says SF4, Label says Starfire V. What's up??

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Interesting ...looks similar, alright.

I'd never heard of XR7's ...where they Dimarzio's? Any idea of their sonic characteristics?
 

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They were the pickups Guild put in 80's pointy shred guitars. I'm pretty sure they were made by Guild as well. Hard to say if your Starfire would have them...
 

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Ouch! Hopefully note, then. It's hard to imagine why they would equip a Starfire with high-distortion electronics???
 

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Dane,

I think those are XR7s. I played a starfire 4 with XR7s in it, and it really ripped. So I just bought a couple of XR7s to put in my starfire 4, which is also this color, though not as dark.
 

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I wouldn't mind snatching up a pair of them sometime. I'd like to AB them with DiMarzio's Super II. That's my current favorite after market, but things do change.
 

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KRYSH,

I'm old and out of it. How long has the expression "AB them" been around?

PDKS,

XR7s in a semi-hollowbody like a starfire 4, 5, 6, or 12 would be in almost as much wood as a solidbody has, so the sound isn't that weird. But XR7s in a hollowbody might be too strange even for a Kiwi.
 

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FYI, XR7's were made by Dimarzio. On most Guilds the XR7 pickups had the Dimarzio name machined off of the back of the pickup. You can see a strip where someone took an end mill and removed the name. Occasionally you find a guitar with XR7 that have the Dimarzio name still on the back of the PUP. Another little point is that for either the beige '57 and SD or XR7's the pickup was designed stock with a single screw on each side for height adjustment. For the Guild guitars an extra 2-screw ear was soldered onto the single screw lip to make it compatable with the Guild 2+1 adjusting screw HB pickup ring. I assume that the modification was done by Guild personal.

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and gold hardware only was used on some special edition SF 4's, like mine from 1990

Michael,

Does the label on yours say anything let "Spec" for special or "cust" for custom? Another inconsistency I like about Guild is that they sometimes didn't put such designations on special and custom guitars.
 

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The Coastal one strikes again.

But seriously, C man, I have a bigsby on all of my archies, but I'm thinking about getting a starfour or starfive with a fixed bridge because I suspect that there might be more sustain with the fixed bridge and that I would therefore like the fixed bridge better for slide. How say ye, Coastie and others in the know?
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
The Coastal one strikes again.

But seriously, C man, I have a bigsby on all of my archies, but I'm thinking about getting a starfour or starfive with a fixed bridge because I suspect that there might be more sustain with the fixed bridge and that I would therefore like the fixed bridge better for slide. How say ye, Coastie and others in the know?

A Starfire 4 for slide ? Interesting !

Can't say I've ever tried that on my SF.

I have this thing that slide-guitars should be "junkers". Maybe a "Junkers" would be good for "dive-bombing", whatever the hell that is in guitar parlance !

But I digress.

If you care to look at some of the guitars, (and really, they're junkers) that are renowned for monster slide-tone, you'll see an awful lot of floating bridges................

Various Supros and Harmonies, both vintage and re-issues spring to mind, just for starters.
Dano' U2s have the most rudimentary of bridges, and they're bitchin' slide guitars.

Somebody here with a lot more knowledge than I will no doubt offer worthwhile advise.

The thought of using a "good" guitar for slide just doesn't sit with me !

My advise; have yourself a barrel-load of fun and create something individual..........

Get a beat-up Dano' U1 / U2. Strip it, paint it, fit the p/u's of your choice that you think will give a nice slide-tone, or retain the originals. Maybe fit different/better pots, a proper bridge and decent tuners, and you've got yourself a Hattelectro !
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
Michael,

Does the label on yours say anything let "Spec" for special or "cust" for custom? Another inconsistency I like about Guild is that they sometimes didn't put such designations on special and custom guitars.

hey darryl,

hans has told me that guild made a small "special edition" without naming them and without counting the numbers in 1990/91.
this special edition had maple body and neck (great grain), ebony fretboard and gold harware.

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KRYSH,

I'm old and out of it. How long has the expression "AB them" been around?

getting old, too. At least as long as I can remember. aahhh, whaddidisay? :wink:
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
The Coastal one strikes again.

But seriously, C man, I have a bigsby on all of my archies, but I'm thinking about getting a starfour or starfive with a fixed bridge because I suspect that there might be more sustain with the fixed bridge and that I would therefore like the fixed bridge better for slide. How say ye, Coastie and others in the know?

no bad idea, the sustain on mine is great. could be easily checked with one of those:
http://www.tone-toys.com/de/Extension_Nut.html
 

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Coastie,

When I think of slide, I think of great solidbody players like Johnny Winter and Duane Allman. Weird old hollowbodies with odd single-coil pups sound good to me for all blues styles except slide. I'm probably in a minority on that account.

Hattelectro Frau
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
Coastie,

When I think of slide, I think of great solidbody players like Johnny Winter and Duane Allman. Weird old hollowbodies with odd single-coil pups sound good to me for all blues styles except slide. I'm probably in a minority on that account.

Hattelectro Frau

Hatto, mien cherry.

Surely you meant "on that account too" !
 
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