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Would like info please on Guilds 1983 model D 27 ch sb. Im looking at possibly buying this . However not much info out there ,as far as resell market. And not many ,if any owners reviews,on quality ,tone, and appointments. is it stripped down d 25,? I know theyre USA made.
This one has a finish ive not seen on any guild.
It is a dark cherry front and back ,with a dark sunburst.any info ???
 

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I'm sure some folks with info will be along soon. Posting some photos would be helpful.
 

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Would like info please on Guilds 1983 model D 27 ch sb. Im looking at possibly buying this . However not much info out there ,as far as resell market. And not many ,if any owners reviews,on quality ,tone, and appointments. is it stripped down d 25,? I know theyre USA made.
This one has a finish ive not seen on any guild.
It is a dark cherry front and back ,with a dark sunburst.any info ???
Sorry D 17 not d 27
 

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Okay, the D-17 was part of the "Mahogany Rush" series of guitars.



A couple of other older threads that may be helpful:


 

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I think that price is too high. I bet you could offer less and get it.
 

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i like the finish, but really was looking for opinions on sound and quality of the D 17 lines. Just noy much out there other than ,a mahogony rush series
 

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I think that price is too high. I bet you could offer less and get it.
yeah, i offered 600. but that included the shipping . we,ll see. it just seems lately, people are jacking up their shipping costs to cover an offer of less than theyre asking. checking resell asking , and actual selling prices, im figuring 600 is fair with shipping included. Its coming from a shop , so they should have necessary shipping supplies. i know my small shop keeps guitar shipping boxes, bubble wrap ,tape etc . to safely ship guitars. And honestly ,iv never paid more than 100.00 cross country . Guess i,ll wait and see
 

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Can't recall who it was, but one of our LTG members (I can't recall who it was) has commented in the past that all of the D-17s he has tried (and there were several) had very narrow necks... IIRC, nut widths closer to 1-5/8". Just so you know...
 

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Can't recall who it was, but one of our LTG members (I can't recall who it was) has commented in the past that all of the D-17s he has tried (and there were several) had very narrow necks... IIRC, nut widths closer to 1-5/8". Just so you know...
Yes,. That is a narrow nut width and neck. but i have a couple other guitars with 1 5/8 inch widths.i have larger hands to be sure. But i manage to adapt to my narrower neck guitars.Just an adjustment in playing technique. Thank you
 

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mcIkar, that's a gorgeous D17 and the burst finish by my longtime observation is
extremely rare. I'm the individual Gardman was referring to.
The narrow nut was a dealbreaker on four different D17s I owned.
I much preferred the volume and tonal characteristics of a typical well set-up arch-back Westerly D25 or
flat-back Corona-era D25 over any of the D17s I tried, all of which seemed "quiet",
lacking in projection and somehow lacking any uniquely Guild-ish compelling tonality.
But - beautiful instruments all.
 
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mcIkar, that's a gorgeous D17 and the burst finish by my longtime observation is
extremely rare. I'm the individual Gardman was referring to.
The narrow nut was a dealbreaker on four different D17s I owned.
I much preferred the volume and tonal characteristics of a typical well set-up arch-back Westerly D25 or
flat-back Corona-era D25 over any of the D17s I tried, all of which seemed "quiet",
lacking in projection and somehow lacking any uniquely Guild-ish compelling tonality.
But - beautiful instruments all.
so im understanding that the tone of d 17,s just arent as good as other guilds from this era?. no projection, none of the expected overtones?.if thats the case ,its no wonder i havent heard from many D 17 owners. as i said earlier, the narrower nut width doesnt bother me ,as playing technique can be adjusted. But the tone parts of guild are what really sets them apart. like martins guilds have their unique sound, how ever no two guilds sound alike, as with higher end martins, they pretty much have the same voiceings.

Thank you for your input. Yes, its a beautiful guitar finish, but without good tones, its just a pretty guitar. edsels are rare too, but they lack in almost every department .lol
 

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mcIkar - correct - my personal experience with the various D17s is that they are just
as well-built / finished as anything from the time periods in which they were built,
but sonically disappointing. If I was going to rank various Guild hog dreads in order
of (my) personal overall satisfaction, the D17 (top right in photo below) would be in last place.

Individual high-res photos of the composite image below can be viewed here:

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Everyone has there own sound they are looking for and I would not look at the D17/D16/D15 as a lesser sounding guitar. I have a Guild D46, D-25 and D15 as well as other Guild acoustics and think each one has it's own sound and place, all great sounding guitars. Of the three I mentioned I enjoy the D15 the most. It has what is hard to find, a well balanced tone across all six strings. Not just a balanced volume but a balanced tone. Even better IMHO is the Guild D15-12. The mahogany top on a 12 string is wonderful. Now keep in mind I don't like a 12 string with jangle. That's the reason I generally don't like maple body acoustics, except in an archtop. The balance in string tone you get with a 12 string mahogany top is something special.

Again, everyone as a certain they like and it's all good!
 
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