CROSSROADS SERIES

davismanLV

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The pictured guitars with the maple fretboards are all solid bodies.
Jane, there are some solid bodies with rosewood fretboards as well, right? But you're saying we won't find a maple fretboard on a non-solid body in this line, is that right? Just trying to figure them out...... thanks.
 

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So, maple fretboards don't work well with acoustic guitars?

Ralph
 

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Nice collection, bet they sound good. It makes me glad I have my DDS-6 and DDS-12 models. The DDS models are a take off of the F-47 only not as deep with the low action Doyle likes, Everyone is hanging on to the few that were made. See . New Hartford wanted them to be one of their best guitars.
To bad Oxnard couldn't keep Doyle, and make more.


I'm with you, man. The Doyle Dykes guitars from New Hartford are some of the best guitars out there. Guild or otherwise.
And, I have some good news for you. Doyle is back with Guild, again.

(argh! Frono beat me to it. Should've gone to the next page)
 

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So, maple fretboards don't work well with acoustic guitars?

Ralph


I don't see why they wouldn't. I think it's more of an aesthetics thing. Maple fretboard with the natural top just might be too much blond. Though I have a Bass that's maple on maple. Hang on a minute and let me see if I've got a picture.

Ah, here we go!

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Now why they went with the black headstock I'll never know!
 

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I don't see why they wouldn't. I think it's more of an aesthetics thing. Maple fretboard with the natural top just might be too much blond. Though I have a Bass that's maple on maple. Hang on a minute and let me see if I've got a picture.

Ah, here we go!

SB-602M.jpg

Now why they went with the black headstock I'll never know!
What a slab.

Ralph
 

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I'm with you, man. The Doyle Dykes guitars from New Hartford are some of the best guitars out there. Guild or otherwise.
And, I have some good news for you. Doyle is back with Guild, again.

(argh! Frono beat me to it. Should've gone to the next page)
It's okay, Dave.... good news. It can be heard twice at least!!
 

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Hey Grot,

What a great collection! They look to be in fantastic condition.

I've been collecting the Crossroads Series for years as well. My collection is like the dogs I have, they are mostly rescues. Guitars that have been abused but are all well loved. I have an FS46-CE, FS46-12CE, FS46-6CE, MKS10-CE, FS48-CE.

I think the photo you have labeled FS48-CE is actually a FS46-6CE. The FS48-CE Deceiver has a humbucker hidden under the top in the bridge position along with a mini toggle switch below the bridge to switch between the humbucker and the under saddle pickup. You can tell the Deciever by looking at the back of the guitar. There is a plate to access the humbucker as well as the mini toggle switch along with the typical battery/preamp cover. The Deciever does have the same maple fingerboard and headstock as the FS46-6CE.

My FS48-CE had been very abused. Someone did the unthinkable and cut through the top to mount a humbucker on the top of the guitar... Very sad but the guitar was, as all Westerly Guilds are, a very well made guitar worth saving. I removed the external humbucker and made a birch or maple cover plate from a piece of wood embossed appliques from the Van Dyke's catalog that I stained. Mounted a vintage Super Distortion pickup under the top where it belonged and wired it to a Fishman Power Chip along with the under saddle pickup. The mini toggle is now a three position switch. Under Saddle/Both/Humbucker.

But as I said, your collection is amazing. These guitars are so hard to find as well as under appreciated.

Thanks Grot!
 

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hearth_man..... where you been, bro? I'd love to see some photos of your guitars no matter how effed up they are!! And it's easier than ever now..... just drag and drop. I'm so fascinated by these guitars and.... wow, I'd love to see more. Can you post a few photos? Please?? 🙏
 

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I think the photo you have labeled FS48-CE is actually a FS46-6CE. The FS48-CE Deceiver has a humbucker hidden under the top in the bridge position along with a mini toggle switch below the bridge to switch between the humbucker and the under saddle pickup. You can tell the Deceiver by looking at the back of the guitar. There is a plate to access the humbucker as well as the mini toggle switch along with the typical battery/preamp cover. The Deceiver does have the same maple fingerboard and headstock as the FS46-6CE.


Oops! I believe you are correct. I tend to make this mistake because the guitar looks just like an FS-48CE Deceiver as shown in this Catalog.

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It has an EJ serial number prefix the same as a FS-46CE and I think I had asked Hans about this a few years back when I compiled my Guilds of Grot Yearbook to make sure I had it right. It definitely does not have the Deceiver humbucker pick-up in it. If you don't mind me asking, what is the two letter serial number prefix of your Deceiver?

I have edited my post and since I dragged out my Yearbook, I added the dates
 
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^ That's too bad. I wonder what happened. I didn't see an announcement in your link, Tom O, but I wouldn't doubt the folks at Action Music.
 

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I'll get back with some photos in a day or two.

Grot I will have to check but I think the FS48 has the same serial number prefix as the FS46, I will check and let you know.
 

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Getting back with some photos of the CrossRoads Series guitars I've rescued. Actually a couple of them are in pretty good shape. I like to look for the guitars that have all original parts when possible. Even if they are in rough shape. The one item that people seem to like to change out are tuners. But I'll have to say I've never seen crappy factory Guild tuners, even open units are decent so unless damaged I'll keep them.

FS46-CE
(This guitar has the original pickup and preamp. The preamp has been modified slightly. See my notes on the FS46-6CE)
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FS46-6CE
(This guitar was a second apparently and had no electronics but did have an under saddle pickup. I did replace this pickup with a Fishman wide 12 string under saddle pickup. I use the wide 12 string pickup due to the large saddle on these guitars. The preamp I installed was a vintage Fishman AGP-2 that Guild used in the later 80s. One other thing I did is installed a power switch on the compartment cover because the type of endpin jack Guild used back then did not have a switch built in so the power was on all the time. This was possible back then due to a very low power preamp circuit they used. If you are interested I posted a couple of schematics years ago along with my own modifications to change the power from 3v to 6v. See my post in the Tech Shop section titled "Early 1980s Guild Crossroads series pickup systems info...", I don't know how to create a link but you can search for it.)
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FS46-12CE
(This guitar is in very good shape. I did have to replace the the under saddle pickup as described in the FS46-6CE notes. But I was able to save the preamp pcb even with some corrosion from a leaking battery. I did not raise the gain with this mod because the modern under saddle pickups have a higher output.)


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MKS10-CE
(This guitar is all original. I did do the pcb modification described in my old post. She has seen alot of play wear and finish checking but is rock solid.)
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FS48-CE Deceiver
(This guitar had the original hidden EMG humbucker removed and they cutout the top to mount a humbucker in a standard fashion. It was terrible to see! The tuners were replaced and if the guitar ever had the preamp, this guitar was also a second, it is was long gone. So... I removed the external humbucker and fashioned the wood plate you can see to cover the huge hole in the top. It was the best I could do but it is certainly not as nice as the original top, with no indication of a "hidden humbucker". I then installed a Fishman wide 12 string under saddle pickup along with a vintage 1980s Super Distortion pickup under the top. These are then run into a Fishman Power Chip preamp. The controls are; one passive tone on the Super Distortion and an overall volume out of the preamp. I did not want to add more controls to keep it operating as it originally had but the Power Chip does have adjustments on the board to set a one time balance.)
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(FS48-CE back)
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Grot, I did look at the prefix on the FS48-CE and it is the same "EJ" as the FS46 models.
 

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Thanks for posting these very cool guitars. I remember seeing a few performers with these in the 80s. On one hand it looks like the later Songbird / S4CE guitars guitars are an evolution of the Cross Roads. On the other hand the Crossroads series look like thin acoustic guitars with transducers while the Songbird type seems an electric guitar (with a transducer) that is built to look like a thin acoustic. Now that I think about it this was the "MTV Unplugged" era which if I remember right meant just another type of transducer/amplification. Sorry - I'm overthinking again.
 

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sorry Frono, He is back with Godin again. Oxnard did something wrong and he left, His website September 19 2019 has his Godin Multiact Guitar featured. Heard about it first from his friends at Action Music in TX. https://www.doyledykes.com/news
I'm not sure about this, that Godin signature model was made before he signed with Guild and I believe he said Guild was cool that he is continuing with that model and some work with others. I think we even discussed that here. So I have not seen any info that he quit again the work with Guild. However I also have not seen him playing his Guilds since August 2019...Doyle played mainly his Martin, Olson, Ovation and Godin since September 2019 until now...Guild has no model yet for him to promote anyway. So only time will tell, unless he specifically mentioned that he quit with Guild.
Ralf
 
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