1973 D25 Pictures -As Per Request

ladytexan

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Everyone,

From my New Member post yesterday, I learned that I might have a 'scarce' all mahogany/archback D25. So, please, please, if I have mis-identified it as an all mahogany, let me know. The serial number is 81185 which would put it being made the Fall, 1973 (the right timeframe for an all mahogany to have been made). Am I correct in this?

Thanks, again, for the warm welcomes,

Toni

The link to the pictures is: http://bit.ly/hl7U2j
 

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Re: 1973 D25

ladytexan said:
Everyone,

From my New Member post yesterday, I learned that I might have a 'scarce' all mahogany/archback D25. So, please, please, if I have mis-identified it as an all mahogany, let me know. The serial number is 81185 which would put it being made the Fall, 1973 (the right timeframe for an all mahogany to have been made). Am I correct in this?

Thanks, again, for the warm welcomes,

Toni

The link to the pictures is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45049735@N ... 845516773/

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Sure looks like a hog top archback to me, and a beauty!

Darryl, get yer drool bib out before you see this. :lol:
 

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ladytexan said:
Everyone,
From my New Member post yesterday, I learned that I might have a 'scarce' all mahogany/archback D25. So, please, please, if I have mis-identified it as an all mahogany, let me know. The serial number is 81185 which would put it being made the Fall, 1973 (the right timeframe for an all mahogany to have been made). Am I correct in this?
Thanks, again, for the warm welcomes,
Toni
The link to the pictures is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45049735@N ... 845516773/
Hi Toni: Yep, time frame's right. Hans Moust can narrow down the actual year by s/n. Even Guild's records online may be inaccurate. As far as I know it's not possible to ID the top material by serial number, unless it's been recorded somewhere already, such as by Mr. Moust. I'm pretty sure he'd be very happy to get that info from you for his own records.
Eeven though it's been said before that spruce can be mistaken for 'hog, it sure looks like it to me too. The telltale chracteristics in the grain pattern should look like what's on the sides and back. Mahogany looks coarser than spruce with bigger pores, in general. The BEST "do-it-yourself" method is to simply look at the inside of the top witha mirror. The color should be the same as the back and sides. 'Hog tends towards a pinkish-beige-ish hue when unstained, while spruce will be MUCH "whiter".
There were spruce tops stained "Mahogany" (The real meaning of D25"M"), but spruce tends to have much tighter and more uniformly parallel grain than 'hog, in top woods anyway. They're selected for that. You probably wouldn't see any pores (the dark streaky lines) like you do in the mahogany either.
SO it sure looks good from here! :D
 

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I agree that this looks like an all 'hog specimen! And it is great shape, too. Verrryyy niiccee.

Dave :D
 

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adorshki said:
ladytexan said:
Everyone,
From my New Member post yesterday, I learned that I might have a 'scarce' all mahogany/archback D25. So, please, please, if I have mis-identified it as an all mahogany, let me know. The serial number is 81185 which would put it being made the Fall, 1973 (the right timeframe for an all mahogany to have been made). Am I correct in this?
Thanks, again, for the warm welcomes,
Toni
The link to the pictures is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45049735@N ... 845516773/
Hi Toni: Yep, time frame's right. Hans Moust can narrow down the actual year by s/n. Even Guild's records online may be inaccurate. As far as I know it's not possible to ID the top material by serial number, unless it's been recorded somewhere already, such as by Mr. Moust. I'm pretty sure he'd be very happy to get that info from you for his own records.
Eeven though it's been said before that spruce can be mistaken for 'hog, it sure looks like it to me too. The telltale chracteristics in the grain pattern should look like what's on the sides and back. Mahogany looks coarser than spruce with bigger pores, in general. The BEST "do-it-yourself" method is to simply look at the inside of the top witha mirror. The color should be the same as the back and sides. 'Hog tends towards a pinkish-beige-ish hue when unstained, while spruce will be MUCH "whiter".
There were spruce tops stained "Mahogany" (The real meaning of D25"M"), but spruce tends to have much tighter and more uniformly parallel grain than 'hog, in top woods anyway. They're selected for that. You probably wouldn't see any pores (the dark streaky lines) like you do in the mahogany either.
SO it sure looks good from here! :D
Thanks so much for giving the very best detailed information. Gonna get that baby mirror out and take a peak. Actually, in person, the graining lines are much more pronounced than what shows in the photos. So, I'm hoping for all mahogany.

Toni
 

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dapmdave said:
I agree that this looks like an all 'hog specimen! And it is great shape, too. Verrryyy niiccee.

Dave :D
Thanks, Dave. You oughta hear the open E chord....short over-the-to-dread beautiful. :D

Toni
 

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Re: 1973 D25

twocorgis said:
ladytexan said:
Everyone,

From my New Member post yesterday, I learned that I might have a 'scarce' all mahogany/archback D25. So, please, please, if I have mis-identified it as an all mahogany, let me know. The serial number is 81185 which would put it being made the Fall, 1973 (the right timeframe for an all mahogany to have been made). Am I correct in this?

Thanks, again, for the warm welcomes,

Toni

The link to the pictures is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45049735@N ... 845516773/

5414527606_15ba1e8655_b.jpg

5413915921_11951188b4_b.jpg

5413917471_06d9462e03_b.jpg


Sure looks like a hog top archback to me, and a beauty!

Darryl, get yer drool bib out before you see this. :lol:

Sandy,

Thanks for posting several of the pictures here. Much appreciated.

Toni
 

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Re: 1973 D25

ladytexan said:
Sandy,

Thanks for posting several of the pictures here. Much appreciated.

Toni

My pleasure Toni. I had a hard time embedding pics when I first tried, but it's pretty easy once you get the hang of it. You'll always heave friends around here with a guitar like that. The D25 and the DV52 are probably the two most loved guitars around here, so you're in good company. 8)
 

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ladytexan said:
dapmdave said:
I agree that this looks like an all 'hog specimen! And it is great shape, too. Verrryyy niiccee.

Dave :D
Thanks, Dave. You oughta hear the open E chord....short over-the-to-dread beautiful. :D

Toni

I can just imagine! A friend of mine has one, and I've played it a little. Quite different from my '87.

Dave :D
 

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Great looking guitar Toni.

I had a '72 all hog flat back D-25, but we never really got along that well. The guitar hoped it would fall into the hands of a guitar player, but I got it instead. :shock: :lol:
 

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Sweet :!: :!: Thanks for posting the pic. :D
 

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Wow, she shore is purty! :shock: You've kept it in great shape, I bet it rings like a bell.
 

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Welcome neighbor!

That is a nice and rare all hog archback you have there. Congrats :mrgreen:
 

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That is, quite simply, one of the best looking Guilds I've seen in a while. Its simple, yet elegant lines and lack of bling are very appealing and it appears to have been handled with a liberal amount of TLC. Very nice! :wink:

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Joe
 

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Thanks, Everyone, for viewing the pix.

You know how the folks react on Antiques Roadshow when they learn that their "whatever-it-is" is worth x amount of dollars? Well, that's me. I've learned that my soulmate D25 guitar is even more special. Thanks so much for helping me learn this.

I remember the day I bought it. It was September 5, 1974 (must have been sitting at the music store for a bit since the S# shows 1973 make date) in Broad Ripple, Indiana. I went, with money in hand, with every intent and purpose of buying a Martin D35 - my long-lusted-after guitar of choice. But, the music store owner said, "You know, it's always best to play a few comparable ones to make sure of your choice." So, I played the D25. Then, the Martin D35. Then, the D25. Then, a different Martin D35). Then, the D25. Done! The rest is history. Thank goodness I received wise counsel, huh?

What a great way to be welcomed into the LTG Forum! :)

Toni
 

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So, what is the estimated value of an all hog, arched back D25, in excellent to mint condition? A friend of mine told me that her sister still has her 1974 Guild D25. She is the original owner and I don't really think she has played it a lot over the past 35 years. My friend said $500
 

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This thread probably raised the price by at least $300. :lol:
 

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frettedstrings said:
So, what is the estimated value of an all hog, arched back D25, in excellent to mint condition? A friend of mine told me that her sister still has her 1974 Guild D25. She is the original owner and I don't really think she has played it a lot over the past 35 years. My friend said $500
Try to find sa recent edition of the Bluebook for Guitars, for a ballpark. From what I've seen recently $500.00 might be right in the ballpark for a spruce-topped guitar showing expected wear for its age. Rememberr also that a guitar can look pristine but if it's that old and hasn't been palyed much I'd inspect it very carefully for neck problems resulting from being stored with the strings kept at tension.
I'd expect a real hog-top to carry a premium based on scarcity, but the bottom line always is: It's worth what somebody was willing to pay for it that day, if the seller was willing to accept that.
THE "sold" prices on Ebay are a pretty good barometer too, with the reminder that there's probably at least two guitars incorrectly described as true hog top/archbacks for every one that actually is.
 
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