Y'all can stop practicing now...

West R Lee

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That settles it for me, I can stop practicing. I think there's something to it though......Graham started playing about 7-8 years ago, and he's better than me now. I've only been playing about 50 years.

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"Practising music without the right genes to back that practice up is indeed useless."
Useless? Utter nonsense. But a great excuse to get out of practicing..."Mom, you *know* I just don't have the genes!"
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It's a little known fact that Levi Strauss had blue genes.
BUT....kidding aside. I just remembered a corollary to all this that I first stumbled across in Psych 101B, "Physiological Psychology": that humans are born with incompletely developed and relatively plastic neural connections and that the final development of those connections is influenced by how they're used. Basically, the more times a neural path (like one that controls a motor action) is fired, the stronger and more efficient that pathway becomes. That's the underlying physiological basis for the development of "motor memory". BUT: according to the wisdom of the time, (early 70's), by around puberty your wiring's pretty much as good as it's gonna get.
Probably explains why so many instructors in so many disciplines figured out eons ago that it's best to "start 'em young", even if they didn't know why. It also tends to support the premise that "nurture" can overcome over "nature".
When I first learned that I also developed a pet theory that if you "learn to learn" it's a lot easier to learn new stuff no matter how old you are.
Still, I hate those guys who can repeat a lead they just heard, by ear, and then remember it forever after, besides....although frequently I've got a lot more creative ability :biggrin-new:
For me, to be able to memorize something musical, and then play it right, dependably, repetition is mandatory. Even my own stuff.
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...if you "learn to learn" it's a lot easier to learn new stuff...
I am a subscriber, Al. Have been my entire conscious life.

Whether the resultant learning seemingly "comes easy" or "is hard", practice (or "repetition" - as it is also known) is essential for the "burn in".

Do not be dissuaded, oh weary guitar playing enthusiasts! Those who *can* do, and those who *don't* write articles justifying why not. ;~}
 

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Speaking of nature vs nurture, and harsh taskmasters, apparently Ghengis Khan's DNA shows up in 1 of 200 of the entire planet's male population according to an article in Discover magazine back in 2005.
Contemporary accounts indicate he was stickler for daily practice and repetition.
 

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Chaka Kahn? Like this??

A SERIOUSLY talented lady.... for all these years!



And with Bruce Hornsby on piano.... there's really not better music than this.

Veer much??
 

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Speaking of nature vs nurture, and harsh taskmasters, apparently Ghengis Khan's DNA shows up in 1 of 200 of the entire planet's male population according to an article in Discover magazine back in 2005.
Contemporary accounts indicate he was stickler for daily practice and repetition.

It would sure take a lot of practice to get your genes to show up in half a percent of the planet's male population!!!
 

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Blue genes got a smile. Khan got a laugh.

Perhaps because of the contexts, that I did not link to, I interpreted the research to mean that there is an upper bound to musical achievement that is genetically determined. If someone is functioning below that level practicing may help them achieve their potential but practicing will not get someone past that genetically determined bound.

To be a professional performing musician requires a minimal level of musical achievement and one of my takeaways is that for many aspiring rock stars, this minimal level is above their maximum genetic potential and all the practice in the world is not going to change that.

I suspect the vast majority of folks posting here: a) have not achieved their potential; and b) do not aspire to be rock starts or professional performing musicians so practice is still called for and appropriate :)

Folks that can pick up just about any musical instrument and make music with it definitely have some kind of talent but it is not clear to me whether this study measures that kind of talent. I also don't think this applies to very creative individuals who express their creativity through music. Pretty interesting stuff anyway :)
 
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