Darryl Hattenhauer
Venerated Member
Dismount? What are you riding?
Why is Fender so reprehensible?
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Darryl Hattenhauer
Venerated Member
Dismount? What are you riding?
coastie99
Enlightened Member
Woof, woof !
coastie99
Enlightened Member
Woof, woof !
Darryl Hattenhauer
Venerated Member
I thought it had something to do with New Zealand's wool industry.
Darryl Hattenhauer
Venerated Member
I thought it had something to do with New Zealand's wool industry.
coastie99
Enlightened Member
Please, no sheep-shagger jokes !!
coastie99
Enlightened Member
Please, no sheep-shagger jokes !!
Darryl Hattenhauer
Venerated Member
Didn't mean to impugn NZers. We all know that it's the Aussies who are the sheep shaggers.
Darryl Hattenhauer
Venerated Member
Didn't mean to impugn NZers. We all know that it's the Aussies who are the sheep shaggers.
West R Lee
Venerated Member
Learn something everyday here. I thought a county north of me here was the only place in the world they practiced animal husbandry. Upshur County, Texas....where men are men and the animals run scared!
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West R Lee
Venerated Member
Learn something everyday here. I thought a county north of me here was the only place in the world they practiced animal husbandry. Upshur County, Texas....where men are men and the animals run scared!
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Darryl Hattenhauer
Venerated Member
Sounds like Upchuck County, Arkansas. Where Hillary..., oh, never mind.
Darryl Hattenhauer
Venerated Member
Sounds like Upchuck County, Arkansas. Where Hillary..., oh, never mind.
Bing k
Senior Member
Back to subject:
I think the first problem with Corona was the fact that electric guitar builders were building acoustics. For some reason it just wasn't a good mix. I can't verify this, but I get that idea after talking to people inside the company. Personally I think the move to Tacoma was a good idea on Fenders part. The people there have proven they can build good guitars. Owning the Tacoma line is a good corporate move as I see it.
I believe we have and will see more innovation and design. The D 40 D 50 Bluegrass guitars show me there's some respect for historic models and design and the CO-1 and CV-1 show that same respect and yet add new technologies to the plate.
It is going to take some time for Guild guitars to build a following other than us geezers. It is not going to be instant gratification for the bean counters in the head office. I hope they have the fortitude to stick with the line for the long haul.
Guild has produced good designs from several designers over the years. There is a reason Guilds sound the way they do.
The GAD argument will be with us for while. If you're going to be in the guitar business you have to compete in the under $1000 market. If folks like the GAD guitars they will be more likely to move into the Americans as they improve in playing skill. The traditional graduation up to the American Guild.
Putting the Guild name on the GADs has ruffled a few feathers ( No insult to anyone intended) but like I've said before "if you are proud of a product you build, put your name on it." The Guild GADs are very good guitars at the price point. I'd say the best I've seen at that price point.
As a music store owner I like the line. I believe the GADs will help build brand recognition for Guild. That's going to mean a lot a few years down the road.
I think the first problem with Corona was the fact that electric guitar builders were building acoustics. For some reason it just wasn't a good mix. I can't verify this, but I get that idea after talking to people inside the company. Personally I think the move to Tacoma was a good idea on Fenders part. The people there have proven they can build good guitars. Owning the Tacoma line is a good corporate move as I see it.
I believe we have and will see more innovation and design. The D 40 D 50 Bluegrass guitars show me there's some respect for historic models and design and the CO-1 and CV-1 show that same respect and yet add new technologies to the plate.
It is going to take some time for Guild guitars to build a following other than us geezers. It is not going to be instant gratification for the bean counters in the head office. I hope they have the fortitude to stick with the line for the long haul.
Guild has produced good designs from several designers over the years. There is a reason Guilds sound the way they do.
The GAD argument will be with us for while. If you're going to be in the guitar business you have to compete in the under $1000 market. If folks like the GAD guitars they will be more likely to move into the Americans as they improve in playing skill. The traditional graduation up to the American Guild.
Putting the Guild name on the GADs has ruffled a few feathers ( No insult to anyone intended) but like I've said before "if you are proud of a product you build, put your name on it." The Guild GADs are very good guitars at the price point. I'd say the best I've seen at that price point.
As a music store owner I like the line. I believe the GADs will help build brand recognition for Guild. That's going to mean a lot a few years down the road.
Bing k
Senior Member
Back to subject:
I think the first problem with Corona was the fact that electric guitar builders were building acoustics. For some reason it just wasn't a good mix. I can't verify this, but I get that idea after talking to people inside the company. Personally I think the move to Tacoma was a good idea on Fenders part. The people there have proven they can build good guitars. Owning the Tacoma line is a good corporate move as I see it.
I believe we have and will see more innovation and design. The D 40 D 50 Bluegrass guitars show me there's some respect for historic models and design and the CO-1 and CV-1 show that same respect and yet add new technologies to the plate.
It is going to take some time for Guild guitars to build a following other than us geezers. It is not going to be instant gratification for the bean counters in the head office. I hope they have the fortitude to stick with the line for the long haul.
Guild has produced good designs from several designers over the years. There is a reason Guilds sound the way they do.
The GAD argument will be with us for while. If you're going to be in the guitar business you have to compete in the under $1000 market. If folks like the GAD guitars they will be more likely to move into the Americans as they improve in playing skill. The traditional graduation up to the American Guild.
Putting the Guild name on the GADs has ruffled a few feathers ( No insult to anyone intended) but like I've said before "if you are proud of a product you build, put your name on it." The Guild GADs are very good guitars at the price point. I'd say the best I've seen at that price point.
As a music store owner I like the line. I believe the GADs will help build brand recognition for Guild. That's going to mean a lot a few years down the road.
I think the first problem with Corona was the fact that electric guitar builders were building acoustics. For some reason it just wasn't a good mix. I can't verify this, but I get that idea after talking to people inside the company. Personally I think the move to Tacoma was a good idea on Fenders part. The people there have proven they can build good guitars. Owning the Tacoma line is a good corporate move as I see it.
I believe we have and will see more innovation and design. The D 40 D 50 Bluegrass guitars show me there's some respect for historic models and design and the CO-1 and CV-1 show that same respect and yet add new technologies to the plate.
It is going to take some time for Guild guitars to build a following other than us geezers. It is not going to be instant gratification for the bean counters in the head office. I hope they have the fortitude to stick with the line for the long haul.
Guild has produced good designs from several designers over the years. There is a reason Guilds sound the way they do.
The GAD argument will be with us for while. If you're going to be in the guitar business you have to compete in the under $1000 market. If folks like the GAD guitars they will be more likely to move into the Americans as they improve in playing skill. The traditional graduation up to the American Guild.
Putting the Guild name on the GADs has ruffled a few feathers ( No insult to anyone intended) but like I've said before "if you are proud of a product you build, put your name on it." The Guild GADs are very good guitars at the price point. I'd say the best I've seen at that price point.
As a music store owner I like the line. I believe the GADs will help build brand recognition for Guild. That's going to mean a lot a few years down the road.
john_kidder
Senior Member
Thanks for getting this back on track, Bing.
Squawk's comments about excellent Corona Guilds pointed out, for me at least, that the problems there may have been something other that manufacturing compatibility. If the guitars are as good as he says they are, then other issues must have interfered with continuous production.
I'm intrigued with the GAD stories and the good reviews as well - those of us with legitimate geezer status remember when we used to laugh at Japanese electronics, and I still remember hearing the first Honda sports cars in about 1969(?) whining through corners at 14,000 RPM. No laughter anymore.
If making guitars is about great design and exemplary materials selection and production control, then maybe China is today's best bet for value in a production instrument. And a fine US facility for more tender and individual care in the higher end?
Squawk's comments about excellent Corona Guilds pointed out, for me at least, that the problems there may have been something other that manufacturing compatibility. If the guitars are as good as he says they are, then other issues must have interfered with continuous production.
I'm intrigued with the GAD stories and the good reviews as well - those of us with legitimate geezer status remember when we used to laugh at Japanese electronics, and I still remember hearing the first Honda sports cars in about 1969(?) whining through corners at 14,000 RPM. No laughter anymore.
If making guitars is about great design and exemplary materials selection and production control, then maybe China is today's best bet for value in a production instrument. And a fine US facility for more tender and individual care in the higher end?
john_kidder
Senior Member
Thanks for getting this back on track, Bing.
Squawk's comments about excellent Corona Guilds pointed out, for me at least, that the problems there may have been something other that manufacturing compatibility. If the guitars are as good as he says they are, then other issues must have interfered with continuous production.
I'm intrigued with the GAD stories and the good reviews as well - those of us with legitimate geezer status remember when we used to laugh at Japanese electronics, and I still remember hearing the first Honda sports cars in about 1969(?) whining through corners at 14,000 RPM. No laughter anymore.
If making guitars is about great design and exemplary materials selection and production control, then maybe China is today's best bet for value in a production instrument. And a fine US facility for more tender and individual care in the higher end?
Squawk's comments about excellent Corona Guilds pointed out, for me at least, that the problems there may have been something other that manufacturing compatibility. If the guitars are as good as he says they are, then other issues must have interfered with continuous production.
I'm intrigued with the GAD stories and the good reviews as well - those of us with legitimate geezer status remember when we used to laugh at Japanese electronics, and I still remember hearing the first Honda sports cars in about 1969(?) whining through corners at 14,000 RPM. No laughter anymore.
If making guitars is about great design and exemplary materials selection and production control, then maybe China is today's best bet for value in a production instrument. And a fine US facility for more tender and individual care in the higher end?
I'm a GAD owner and started the thread, and I'll second the above notion that those with cheaper guitars will surely pay attention to the better American ones. I'm thrilled to hear Tacoma might be a good manufacturing source. I don't know the economics of guitarmaking; it just may be that imports are always going to be the cheaper entry things.
I'm a GAD owner and started the thread, and I'll second the above notion that those with cheaper guitars will surely pay attention to the better American ones. I'm thrilled to hear Tacoma might be a good manufacturing source. I don't know the economics of guitarmaking; it just may be that imports are always going to be the cheaper entry things.