Stagewear: Is it too much to ask?

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I think that generational and regional culture does play into it, too, but like attire for job interviews, there are certain unspoken guidelines one can use to decide. Each band and situation is different.

If playing a wedding for a close family member, neighbor (as with the OP), or a friend circle, one should be able to figure out what's acceptable. If you're in a working band booked by an agency, and the customers are unknown, that's where the professionalism should kick in. Also, as a side note, like in an interview situation, no one ever complains if one's overdressed, from which one can always dress down.

Dress culture for the Pacific Northwest is an interesting mishmash of hipster wear, technical clothing, and everyday duds. For regular parties--unless someone tells you it's formal--everything from a couture one-off to a Patagonia puffy is acceptable. Dressy for younger generations also has a different definition nowadays, esp. when we see "celebs" wearing super expensive high fashion streetwear and limited edition $20K sneakers to a wedding.
 

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As I said, the band leader is the one on the left. It's his neighbors' wedding.
Well in that case everybody should have known what they were getting and it probably wasn't a surprise. Every band has a statement to make. It is part of the band brand. The costume is part of it.

I've not known anyone getting married to just hire some band somewhere to come in and play. They spend as much time picking that band as they do anything else. I think if I hired a biker band for my wedding and they showed up dressed like The Four Seasons in would be a little disappointed.
 
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But one things really bugs me about my new band. They always dress like they're about to mow the lawn. How weird am I for wanting to look good for an audience?

They weren't hired to mow lawns, so I fail to see how this is a valid comparison.
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Dress code is way different than it used to be. In the 90's I attended an outdoor wedding, reception followed in a very nice barn remodeled as a venue; it was really beautifully done and quite impressive. Bride and groom in gown and tux, wedding party and parents' attire similar.

Guests were all over the map. Some dressed for the occasion, many were nicely casual and others a bit more casual. One gal was in shorts and a halter top. I was rather appalled, but expectancies for dress have changed (deteriotated?) greatly in the past few decades.

At least no one came in pajamas.

+1 on this. Dirty jeans and a T-shirt to a funeral? Seen it. Gym shorts to church? Seen it. Shorts and a T-shirt to a formal wedding? Seen it.

I agree with frono it is generational, and I am admittedly over 60. But IMO it is also disrespectful. YMMV.

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Well in that case everybody should have known what they were getting and it probably wasn't a surprise. Every band has a statement to make. It is part of the band brand. The costume is part of it.

I've not known anyone getting married to just hire some band somewhere to come in and play. They spend as much time picking that band as they do anything else. I think if I hired a biker band for my wedding and they showed up dressed like The Four Seasons in would be a little disappointed.
Yup!

My question wasn't just about weddings. I just don't like to look like a complete schlump on stage. I'd feel like I was insulting the audience.
 

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I think the fact it is his neighbors wedding in the backyard, it doesn’t call for over thinking their attire. I went to a casual back yard wedding and the band they had was a rock band, dressed very similar. As a guest, I didn’t even think about how they were dressed, they looked normal and sounded good, was all I cared about. If they’re a big band or jazz band, in a church setting they might look out of place, but they look the part for this occasion so I see nothing wrong. If it was a church wedding, maybe dress up, but for backyard casual we’re keeping our costs down wedding, I say wear whatever(guests and band). Here’s the band I witnessed, they look the same as your buddies and I don’t think it bothered anyone there:
You're right, none of us looked out of place. See posts 1 and 47.
 

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Ignoring the specificity of the wedding event, "dress code" and "common sense" (with regard to appropriate clothing) are no longer the universal concepts they once were. It tends to splinter along generational and economic lines. I note that the vast majority of people who commented about inappropriateness and about whom I have a reasonable guess as to their age, are over 60. While some of that is LTG demographics this also seems like one of those things that the younger you are, the less it is important to you.
In Maine, it's not generational. The groom was at least in his sixties. For the ceremony and vows, he looked like a groom. But by the time posing for photos came around, he had his shirt off.

And as you can probably guess from the photo, no one in the band is a spring chicken.

When my wife moved up here from Virginia, one of her observations was that, up here, even a CPA or a Baptist minister or a state senator can look like a hog-riding meth lab proprietor.
 

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In Maine, it's not generational. The groom was at least in his sixties. For the ceremony and vows, he looked like a groom. But by the time posing for photos came around, he had his shirt off.

And as you can probably guess from the photo, no one in the band is a spring chicken.

When my wife moved up here from Virginia, one of her observations was that, up here, even a CPA or a Baptist minister or a state senator can look like a hog-riding meth lab proprietor.
I would argue that when it comes to generations, the exact opposite is true. Kids nowadays are inundated w/ clothing style related peer pressure in the likes past generations have never dealt with. Between branding/advertising/social media/schools/friends/work/celebrity worship/social media influencers, etc....Hell, just look at any pics of a school function in the 60's/70's/80's...(the horror!!) .and I'd bet the current flock if school kids easily out dresses them. No such thing as a kid nowadays going to school wearing toughskins and maypops. You'd be publicly ridiculed till the last bell rang!! It's older generations that care less...just like they don't care about having the latest brand cell phone, or what shoes they have to have, etc.

I'm likely a youngster on this site, a spry 55, and (no offense to anyone personally) but I found Charlie's bandmate's attire borderline embarrassing! :(No one is saying wear tuxes, and even a fresh clean pair of jeans will do...but at the very least a casual button up shirt. I don't care if every attendee of the wedding looks like an extra from Sons Of Anarchy, the day's entertainment can still rise above it. It's not like people attending rock concerts outdress the act their going to see!! When you're a focal point, a little class goes a long way. (Could even lead to more bookings) Not to mention, over 1/2 the population knows jack %#+* about music performance and couldn't tell you if a band is tight, in tune, in key, on time...or not. Just like countless restaurant visitors eat w/ their eyes, not their tastebuds....presentation absolutely counts. A good looking band, oddly enough, probably even sounds better to some folks. :p (I wouldn't doubt it!!)
 
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A friend of mine played in a typical jean’s and t-shirt rock band and that’s what they wore. Except for their bass player who always wore a suit. Sometimes with a tie. That was his thing and he stuck with it.
 

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When my wife moved up here from Virginia, one of her observations was that, up here, even a CPA or a Baptist minister or a state senator can look like a hog-riding meth lab proprietor.
You're right, none of us looked out of place. See posts 1 and 47.
Well ok, so in post 1 just over his shoulder I see several attendees in shorts and T shirts, and even baseball caps. Looks like a normal gathering of people on a sunny day for an outdoor casual occasion, so all very similar attire to me. Though your guy has a bandana on his head,(ironically so did the singer of the band I saw in exact situation) so perhaps the bandana is a look to distinguish himself as being in the band, ala Stevie Van Zandt.

And hey, I totally get it that you and others feel having some respect and dressing up is in order, and while it may be, too dressy is a fashion faux pas as well. Plus there is also the devil’s advocate aspect of the rock and roll attitude of I don’t give a$#&*, I‘m just here to rock! Not saying that was their attitude either, but gotta look at it from all angles. It could be generational but he looks older than I am and I’m in my mid 50s! Another point is that jeans and a tshirt is many folks’ casual attire, when you say wear something casual, then that’s what they’ll roll with. By the way, if the bride and groom are OK with it, that’s all that matters that day.

Last, I don’t know how long it’s been since, but this statement seems to enforce the fact you are overthinking it. I mean it’s known you have meth chemist looking Baptist ministers? Lol, and now you worry about a rock bands attire at a casual backyard wedding? You’ll definitely want to discuss it with the band before your next gig so it doesn’t gnaw at you again.
 

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I would argue that when it comes to generations, the exact opposite is true. Kids nowadays are inundated w/ clothing style related peer pressure in the likes past generations have never dealt with. . . .
You know, sounds right to me. Just heard the term micro-fashion on the radio for the first time last week. I don't even want to know what they pay for pre-holed jeans and pre-cut-off cut-offs.
. . . I'm likely a youngster on this site, a spry 55, and (no offense to anyone personally) but I found Charlie's bandmate's attire borderline embarrassing! :(No one is saying wear tuxes, and even a fresh clean pair of jeans will do...but at the very least a casual button up shirt.
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Well ok, so in post 1 just over his shoulder I see several attendees in shorts and T shirts, and even baseball caps.
Yep. Like I say, this is Maine. Highly casual.
Looks like a normal gathering of people on a sunny day for an outdoor casual occasion, so all very similar attire to me. Though your guy has a bandana on his head,(ironically so did the singer of the band I saw in exact situation) so perhaps the bandana is a look to distinguish himself as being in the band, ala Stevie Van Zandt.

And hey, I totally get it that you and others feel having some respect and dressing up is in order, and while it may be, too dressy is a fashion faux pas as well.
Yup. I'm not at all into dressing up. But I don't think of a shirt with buttons and leather shoes as dressing up. For this event, I wore a cowboy shirt and boots and blue jeans. We knew the bride and groom were stoners.
Plus there is also the devil’s advocate aspect of the rock and roll attitude of I don’t give a$#&*, I‘m just here to rock!
A slight disclaimer: I don't think of myself as a rocker. I'm mainly a songwriter and folksinger. Actually, I do give a$#&*.

Love to rock, though. My attitude: Have fun (we did) and show folks a good time (we did).
Not saying that was their attitude either, but gotta look at it from all angles. It could be generational but he looks older than I am and I’m in my mid 50s! Another point is that jeans and a tshirt is many folks’ casual attire, when you say wear something casual, then that’s what they’ll roll with. By the way, if the bride and groom are OK with it, that’s all that matters that day.
Absolutely. And they were.
Last, I don’t know how long it’s been since, but this statement seems to enforce the fact you are overthinking it. I mean it’s known you have meth chemist looking Baptist ministers? Lol, and now you worry about a rock bands attire at a casual backyard wedding? You’ll definitely want to discuss it with the band before your next gig so it doesn’t gnaw at you again.
All good thoughts, Boneman. You've brought me back to earth. Thanks, man. I needed that!
 

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But I don't think of a shirt with buttons and leather shoes as dressing up.

Wherein more insight into the issue is provided. While there are varying degrees of dressing up, both of those items have been in the dress up category for me for decades. I'm sure we do agree on "clean" and "not smelly".
 
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