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[Christopher Cozad]

Thanks, Ray. That clip was better. The piece you are playing is really pleasant to listen to.

Guitars number #1 and #3 sound very similar to me. I like #2 the best, as it has a stronger bottom end than the other two. #2 also sounds as though you are getting a little bit of string to fret contact... 4th string, maybe?

 

[davismanLV]

Okay, try as I might, I cannot get much in the way of good sound quality. I even turned my bass way down and all I get is a rumble. Your voice I cannot make out words or anything until you laugh. The piece sounds nice enough but again just mostly rumble and I don't know why that is. So, I tried. But I certainly wouldn't try to pick a guitar or anything based on this recording. Apparently Christopher is able to discern more than I. Sorry.

 

[Rayk]

Okay, try as I might, I cannot get much in the way of good sound quality. I even turned my bass way down and all I get is a rumble. Your voice I cannot make out words or anything until you laugh. The piece sounds nice enough but again just mostly rumble and I don't know why that is. So, I tried. But I certainly wouldn't try to pick a guitar or anything based on this recording. Apparently Christopher is able to discern more than I. Sorry.

Huh I don’t know why that is Tom I’m sorry .
I know I had to make sure I closed
SC for the replacement track to load otherwise it played the original one .

try the newer link if you didn’t . Adding bass or any Eq would not represent that guitars correctly .

I can kick myself for not checking the track volume it was loud in my head phones because I had the mic volume set full to monitors/headphones. Ugh

 

[Rayk]

Thanks, Ray. That clip was better. The piece you are playing is really pleasant to listen to.

Guitars number #1 and #3 sound very similar to me. I like #2 the best, as it has a stronger bottom end than the other two. #2 also sounds as though you are getting a little bit of string to fret contact... 4th string, maybe?

Yes I agree on that guitar it was the string vibrating of my finger causing that sometimes the string spacing comes into play on that one it did just a bit .

My question to you would be did any of them really perform badly ?

if any one of those was performed solo would the tone be acceptable or would you say that guitar sounded badly?

I’m trying to see if the Eastman truly out preformed the others .

 

[JohnW63]

Damn. I was listening to guitar one and two by clicking back and fourth and Sound Cloud decided I needed to create an account to keep listening. I'll try clearing my cookies for the site and just listen again. I was forming an opinion at any rate!

1) I really like your style of playing. Make a bunch of CDs and sell them at all the coffee shops. I'd suggest a YouTube channel to play them, but I have no idea how to monetize stuff.

2) I turned up the volume and with my small JBL studio monitors and it sounded just fine. I could tell differences, but none stood out from the rest enough to state " There is your winner!" I think the 2nd and 3rd had crisper highs. ( Newer strings? ) The last one had more sustain at the low end. You can sort of see it in the wave on Soundcloud. To my ear this was a bit of a problem. It hid the melody finger part with the low end drone. I wanted to be able to dial it back in the mix as if it was a second instrument.

3) They all sounded nice. But if you were looking to have a noticeable improvement over the others and had to spend rent money on it, I don't think you got it. Now, if was a joy to play and you were going to sell off one of the others to fund it, that's another story.

 

[Rayk]

Damn. I was listening to guitar one and two by clicking back and fourth and Sound Cloud decided I needed to create an account to keep listening. I'll try clearing my cookies for the site and just listen again. I was forming an opinion at any rate!

1) I really like your style of playing. Make a bunch of CDs and sell them at all the coffee shops. I'd suggest a YouTube channel to play them, but I have no idea how to monetize stuff.

2) I turned up the volume and with my small JBL studio monitors and it sounded just fine. I could tell differences, but none stood out from the rest enough to state " There is your winner!" I think the 2nd and 3rd had crisper highs. ( Newer strings? ) The last one had more sustain at the low end. You can sort of see it in the wave on Soundcloud. To my ear this was a bit of a problem. It hid the melody finger part with the low end drone. I wanted to be able to dial it back in the mix as if it was a second instrument.

3) They all sounded nice. But if you were looking to have a noticeable improvement over the others and had to spend rent money on it, I don't think you got it. Now, if was a joy to play and you were going to sell off one of the others to fund it, that's another story.

Thank you John .
here’s the thing one cost 2,600 dollars
One cost 1600 used which I did pay a bit to much at the time but not overly new they are 1900 rounded up. The other cost 800.00 not sure about a price increase on this one .

From what you said that’s exactly why it was returned .

 

[Christopher Cozad]

My question to you would be did any of them really perform badly ?

Not at all.

if any one of those was performed solo would the tone be acceptable or would you say that guitar sounded badly?

All three sounded just fine.

 

[davismanLV]

As I said, I had trouble with the sound. I actually got up and turned the sub-woofer WAY down to try for more clarity but it just wasn't there. Then I replayed it again so Don could hear my problem with the sound. But on a relisten, none of them sounded bad. Also, I think I liked the first one best. Don agreed with me. So, for what that's worth. These are the same speakers that I listen to television and music through and they're fairly decent. So, just throwing that out there.

 

[Rayk]

As I said, I had trouble with the sound. I actually got up and turned the sub-woofer WAY down to try for more clarity but it just wasn't there. Then I replayed it again so Don could hear my problem with the sound. But on a relisten, none of them sounded bad. Also, I think I liked the first one best. Don agreed with me. So, for what that's worth. These are the same speakers that I listen to television and music through and they're fairly decent. So, just throwing that out there.

Ok great that you can hear it better . I can try to put a limiter on it and up the volume again .
But that could some clipping so ….
Anyway you are getting the point .

The first guitar is my Blueridge BR283A 1,600 hundred , I bought it used .

The second is the Eastman 2,600 buckaroos .

The last one is the Recording king RO-328
799.00

all Adirondack tops all East Indian rosewood back and sides , Ebony bridge and fingerboard on the Blue and Eastman

rosewood on the Recording king .

so yeah I’m a picky SOB and I’m sorry to whoever I need to be , lol but I’m just not gunna pay that kind of cash for a guitar that really can’t out perform a 799.00 one .

screw the bling my Blueridges have it to spare . Lol

 

[merlin6666]

Eastman probably the most popular brand out there for the youngens. My local store who is also a Guild dealer says they are selling hot to the first time buyers and he stocks much more than of any other brand. There's a committed forum for these three brands and I think it said there somewhere that Eastman Blueridge and Recording King share a lot of resources and manufacturing space. But you probably knew that already. Are the Westerly Series made there as well?

 

[Christopher Cozad]

The second is the Eastman

Interesting. That is the one I liked the best.

 

[Rayk]

Oh just

Interesting. That is the one I liked the best.

yes and I hear what you hear but I also favored some of #3 clarity and though I muffed it does have more sustain and killer overtones also it had old strings which were Matin Monels the others were new Elixer nanowebs if you didn’t catch that in the audio .
I posted a vid in members music with #3 it’s called listen . Listen meaning exactly that hear the guitar for 800 bucks she’s pretty darn good .
The Eastman cost of 2600 bucks just let me down .
As a result I’m pretty much done with Eastman as a guitar of interest . There great guitars great quality control all around beautiful guitars .
For me it’s a tone hunt she’s got to sing any guitar I get has to sing .

I’m so afraid that my ear has surpassed my playing that the only guitars I’m interested in tonally are well outside my affordability range . It puts a amazing amount of stress on me . Sounds silly but very true .

Now just to say I always smile when I play my Guild CV-1 this being my second one she’s a bit better then the first one but both had a very satisfying tone .

You’ll hear a new tune on her soon . Just couldn’t use her as a competitor because she has the 16” lower bout .

But man I hate you all for getting me Zoned in on Guilds ! Lol

But I’m screwed since those fools won’t make OM’s and it is really p!ssing me off . Lol

 

[Christopher Cozad]

...the only guitars I’m interested in tonally are well outside my affordability range... Sounds silly but very true .

Not silly at all, at least, not to me. That is the very reason I began building guitars. I simply couldn't afford to play what I wanted to hear.

 

[Rayk]

Not silly at all, at least, not to me. That is the very reason I began building guitars. I simply couldn't afford to play what I wanted to hear.

Oooo really when here still ? Lol

 

[Christopher Cozad]

My first "real" guitar was a Guild. It has a place forever in my heart.

 

[Rayk]

My first "real" guitar was a Guild. It has a place forever in my heart.

I didn’t know you built guitars . Do you still build them ? Or is it just a hobby ?

 

[geoguy]

Ray, check out his website:

Cozad Guitars