Guitar Center Layoffs

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And I'll add that if you are spending that kind of money, you shouldn't be buying it at Guitar Center at all. None other than Ren Ferguson told me that "Guitar Center isn't where you should be buying a Gibson" when I asked him why there weren't any good ones at my local GC, which has been on life support forever.
Agree. Another reason why there should only be 1-2 locations per major city...max. Then they actually could stock more higher quality stuff in every store. Either way, people still do buy $2-3k guitars there. (I'd rather go to where there are 10-15 to choose from...and not just the 1 on the wall w/ the "do not touch" sign.) Best thing about GC is shopping online from their entire franchise used gear section, then having it shipped to your local store. Never have it shipped to your home. That way you can inspect it before you leave the store. If there are any issues, they can be resolved right then and there!
 

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Sam Ash near me in the San Fernando Valley closed recently. Bought my first Guild electric there when quarantine started. Was a great store.
Oh wow, sorry to hear that. I wouldn't go there often, but it was a nice store. How about the GC out there on Ventura Blvd.?? That's still open, yes? I'd usually go to the one in Hollywood up on Sunset Blvd., but both are nice stores.
 

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Oh wow, sorry to hear that. I wouldn't go there often, but it was a nice store. How about the GC out there on Ventura Blvd.?? That's still open, yes? I'd usually go to the one in Hollywood up on Sunset Blvd., but both are nice stores.
Don't make it out that far. I have to be dragged anywhere east of Winnetka
 

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And all of the decisions regarding pricing on vintage gear are made at GC corporate headquarters. I have picked up some nice bargains when they significantly underpriced a guitar, most notably a 1950 Gibson ES-125 that went for close to $1000 under its value.
That's right. The store staff has to call corporate whenever a piece of used gear walks in the door. You have to wait until they get an answer if you want your money.

If it's a vintage guitar, I think they call the Hollywood store.
 

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Best thing about GC is shopping online from their entire franchise used gear section, then having it shipped to your local store. Never have it shipped to your home. That way you can inspect it before you leave the store. If there are any issues, they can be resolved right then and there!
That's precisely what I do, or at least used to do. I haven't seen anything worth buying from them used in quite a while.
 

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time's they are changing...
Sadly, the ONLY thing that isn't changing is the system that keeps the mega wealthy in a nice comfy world of no risk/ no loss/ no fault. When one company fails, it simply bleeds it dry, and defers it's losses into tax credits in another company under the parent umbrella. For Joe Ordinary w/ the small family business, one bad quarter and you're out of business, in massive personal debt, and likely in the red for the next 10-15 years. In my honest opinion, bad business decisions on the corporate level SHOULD have dire consequences. One company shouldn't be able to prop up another. That's the only reason why we have all these BS cookie cutter box stores to begin with. I say good riddens.
 
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I understand the retail woes. I used to work at a retail department store that Walmart "price bullied" into a chapter filing. I have spent a small fortune at GC locations over the years and have seen good ones and awful ones. Sometimes it seems like it depends on who is on the floor that day and their mood. I can personally thank the particularly unpleasant guy at GC Raleigh, NC for basically sending me and my money out the door a few months ago. I went straight to Harry's Guitar Shop in Raleigh on the way home and bought a Guild! I love it. The folks at Harry's have always been stellar in how they treat customers. I hope the good folks at the Greensboro and Cary, NC GCs can survive this.
 

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The GC in my area is rocking still. Strong customer base, still got enough employees to fulfil the demand. Not sure if they laid anyone off, but they do a good job all in all.
 

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The GC in my area is rocking still. Strong customer base, still got enough employees to fulfil the demand. Not sure if they laid anyone off, but they do a good job all in all.
Is this on the northeast side of Tucson? A small store? Near Kolb?
 

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Is this on the northeast side of Tucson? A small store?
northwest side, orange grove and river. I am not a fan of the east side location, that one is fading away, or seems like that when I was in there like 6 months ago or more. I did buy several guitars there however in its heyday:

A US made Fender strat
Gibson J45
Taylor 612c
 

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northwest side, orange grove and river. I am not a fan of the east side location, that one is fading away, or seems like that when I was in there like 6 months ago or more. I did buy several guitars there however in its heyday:

A US made Fender strat
Gibson J45
Taylor 612c
I didn't think it was very good. I do not get to Tucson enough to know my way around.
 

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I didn't think it was very good. I do not get to Tucson enough to know my way around.
you aint missing much.
while I will be here for a while yet, i will be stoked the day we leave. :)
 

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It just has to be so hard to be a large retailer nowadays. We used to view downsizing with horror, but nowadays it's the expected eventual fate of companies during economic hardship, especially those acquired by private equity firms. Guitar Center/Musicians Friend is owned by Ares Management. Even Sweetwater now has a private equity company as a majority share holder, but they seem to have been able to better adapt to the new economy.

I truly admire private music companies like Gretsch and Rickenbacker who find ways to survive, but not give up ownership. It's astounding to me that Rickenbacker still hasn't cranked out inexpensive models to try to compete in the mid and budget price ranges. Big kudos to them. I don't know how they do it, but I'm just standing on the outside with no knowledge of the music retail business.

Recently saw a guitar on GC online, it had one picture. Of the back of the guitar. Wood was super dark so totally indistinguishable. Might as well taken a photo of concrete. 😂
I just saw a similar photo -- a 1965 CE-100 with one pic of the back.

 

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It just has to be so hard to be a large retailer nowadays. We used to view downsizing with horror, but nowadays it's the expected eventual fate of companies during economic hardship, especially those acquired by private equity firms. Guitar Center/Musicians Friend is owned by Ares Management. Even Sweetwater now has a private equity company as a majority share holder, but they seem to have been able to better adapt to the new economy.

I truly admire private music companies like Gretsch and Rickenbacker who find ways to survive, but not give up ownership. It's astounding to me that Rickenbacker still hasn't cranked out inexpensive models to try to compete in the mid and budget price ranges. Big kudos to them. I don't know how they do it, but I'm just standing on the outside with no knowledge of the music retail business.
I guess they can't all be D'Addario. :)
 

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Yup. Guitar Center is a racket.

Still, I wouldn't mind if they retired the people in charge of playing loud music over the PA. But then we'd be able to hear the instruments we're trying, which would reduce sales: a lose-win. (They lose, we win.)
 

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Sam Ash near me in the San Fernando Valley closed recently. Bought my first Guild electric there when quarantine started. Was a great store.
Love Sam Ash — a chain that does it right. Used to go to the one in White Plains, New York, a lot and went into the 42nd Street one a time or two. Wonder if they're still there.
 

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I have nothing against Guitar Center other than every time I stop in there it is just people sitting in the way everywhere showing off their guitar skills to the point where if I want to try something out I can't compete with them. So I don't buy much there. As far as the less than knowledgeable staff, I'm not a big shopper. I seldom go to a guitar shop just to look around and ask questions. I generally do my homework before I go and know the answers to most my questions already no matter where I go. But all that said, I've been hearing of Guitar Center's impending demise for as long as I can remember and they are still here. I don't take the reports very seriously.
 
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