Guild - Gibby comparision

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evenkeel said:
I suspect if we lined up a bunch of d35's, from the same or different years we'd find some that were great, some not so much.
But, for that to be a fair A/B/C, etc. comparison, we'd have to make sure they all have the same strings, etc.

I have a D35 and I'd love to participate. When/where did you say we're meeting? :wink:

Joe
 

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killdeer43 said:
But, for that to be a fair A/B/C, etc. comparison, we'd have to make sure they all have the same strings, etc.
I have a D35 and I'd love to participate. When/where did you say we're meeting? :wink:
Joe

Now that's a great idea. Let's see you are in the NW corner of the country, I'm in the SE. 2,500 miles apart +/-.... How about Kansas City???
 

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evenkeel said:
Now that's a great idea. Let's see you are in the NW corner of the country, I'm in the SE. 2,500 miles apart +/-.... How about Kansas City???
"Goin' to Kansas City,
Kansas City here I come.
They got some crazy little women there,
and I'm gonna......."

**I'd better stop right there! :lol:

Joe

The mileage is closer to 3,000+/- :!:
 

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When I managed the store (1977-1988), we were a Gibson, Martin, Guild, Ovation, Yamaha, and Takamine dealer. Fortunately, the owner had been a long-time fan of Guilds so we always kept a good stock of them. Gibsons however, were more of a problem. First, the company was (and seemingly still is) a terrible company with which to do business. They'd come in and tell us we needed to have an L5 and a Super 400 on the wall (when a Les Paul was going for $500, these were $2500 insturments- in a small college town...).

Anyway, one of my sales pitches was "I can make this Guild sound just like that Gibson." And I'd strum a chord on the Guild, then put the palm of my hand down on the lower bout of the guitar while the chord was ringing, killing all the top vibrations. And the Guild F-40 would sound like a Hummingbird...

The thing is, there's a lot of subjectvity in acoustic guitars. I've never played a Gibson acoustic that sounded right to me. But I've heard a few- I do like Pete Townsend's acoustic sound, and the Beatles' sounds- both of which are very much Gibsons. But my idea of a great acoustic sound is more from Stephen Stills and Neil Young- especially the studio recordings of "Helplessly Hoping", "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes", "Tell Me Why", "Old Man", and the live version of "The Needle And The Damage Done".

About ten years ago I was at a local store that had both Gibson and Guilds, and two guys worked there who also operated a good local recording studio. Tony in particular had great ears for sounds. I was playing a new Guild D-40 and when I started playing "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away", he remarked how much that guitar filled space like a Gibson J-60, only with more warmth.

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jte said:
Anyway, one of my sales pitches was "I can make this Guild sound just like that Gibson." And I'd strum a chord on the Guild, then put the palm of my hand down on the lower bout of the guitar while the chord was ringing, killing all the top vibrations. And the Guild F-40 would sound like a Hummingbird...

I did this with my D-25 to show off at a recent song circle. Even with my hand on the top it projected nicely.
 

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I am most fortunate to have GUILD, GIBSON AND MARTIN. I love all 3 for their different qualitys. i have a great j 45 gibson and my D55 is a dream. As far as the weight of a Guild go's , that has never worried me. and i do beleive that if a Guild was as light as a Gibson. that tone we all know and love would be missing. :D
 

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Hi all,

I've played a couple of slope shouldered Bozeman J45's that I really liked, and one square shouldered J45 Sheryl Crow that I didn't. I would have bought either of those J45's but they were eye wateringly expensive. Maybe after a couple more kids leave home (and don't come back with their girlfriends...).

Thing I've noticed is that both Martin and Gibson have a lot more wow factor to the common populace than a Guild. My favourite saying at guitar practice time with my buddies when they ask why I'm not playing the Martin is " Why play a Martin when you can play a Guild !!"

Cheers, Ian
 

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..put the palm of my hand down on the lower bout of the guitar while the chord was ringing, killing all the top vibrations. And the Guild... would sound like a (Gibson) Hummingbird..

I understand this, I think. Part of the charm of a good Gibson for me is the midrange, compressed sound. The best ones sound as sweet as honey. Any old Kicking Mule fans might remember the ragtime guitarist Leo Wijnkamp. Leo recorded and performed with a Hummingbird.

I'd love to have an old Hummingbird, or even a good Bozeman True Vintage. I like to relive my impressionable youth by playing the guitars of my heros - which include a few Guild pickers for sure! "Did you ever have to make up your mind?" Oh, wait... that was an electric guitar. :wink:
 

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What I always find surprising are the references to Guilds being heavy. My D25 is still the lightest (steel-string) guitar I've ever owned or handled with the exception of a Martin concert-size a buddy bought new about 7 years back. But I always thought that was part of the sound equation: I figure it must be thinner/lighter walls (back and top) allowing more "excursion", as in speaker theory. The more I read here the more I'm beginning to think I lucked out with a really exceptional D25. To me it's truly a featherweight!
 

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adorshki said:
What I always find surprising are the references to Guilds being heavy. My D25 is still the lightest (steel-string) guitar I've ever owned or handled with the exception of a Martin concert-size a buddy bought new about 7 years back. But I always thought that was part of the sound equation: I figure it must be thinner/lighter walls (back and top) allowing more "excursion", as in speaker theory. The more I read here the more I'm beginning to think I lucked out with a really exceptional D25. To me it's truly a featherweight!

I suspect you have a flat-back, hog-topped D25, like my old 1972. Yes they are very light.
I was taken aback when I played one of the hump-backs from later in the 70's. It sounded
like my guitar. But it was too heavy. That's what I thought at the time anyway.

My D60 is a light guitar. But my F65ce's are actually rather heavy for such small,
slender guitars. But if you ask me, the F65ce is one of Guild's greatest. If I had to
choose only one guitar to own, it would be my burst F65ce. Greatest guitar I've
ever owned and one of the greatest I've ever played.
 

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Hi Marc: No, it's actually the '96 in my signature, it's a spruce-topped archback. In fact I remember now that back then I thought part of the lightness was due to no back bracing and the lightness was an intentional by-product of that design. You're right though, my F65 is actually heavier than the '25 but I'm now pretty sure the top must be thinner. Haven't actually gauged 'em out though.
Al
 

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evenkeel said:
Now that's a great idea. Let's see you are in the NW corner of the country, I'm in the SE. 2,500 miles apart +/-.... How about Kansas City??
How 'bout Salt Lake City!
DLG
 

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killdeer43 said:
GardMan said:
evenkeel said:
Now that's a great idea. Let's see you are in the NW corner of the country, I'm in the SE. 2,500 miles apart +/-.... How about Kansas City??
How 'bout Salt Lake City!
DLG
Does SLC have a song? :?

Joe
It's got a choir and a tabernacle, it must have a song! :roll:
 

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Google comes up with 5 "hits" for Salt Lake City songs... by:
Beach Boys
The Grateful Dead
The Dwarves (?)
The Queers (?) and
Hank Williams Jr.

Can't say I have heard any of them. We also have skiing in the winter, and wonderful Nat'l Pars in the spring/summer/fall.
Dave
 

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Dave,

Maybe we can get together and pen a song for SLC. :wink:
Actually, how about that great Utah Phillips song, I've Got a Home Out in Utah?

" Well I've got a home out in Utah,
in the Rockies that I've learned to love so well,
Where the sago (sp?) lillies bloom and send up their bright perfume,
in the mountains and the canyons where I dwell."
[**Close enough for government work!]

Utah Phillips, "the Golden Voice of the Great Southwest." RIP.

Joe
:D
 
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