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I agree...even with my less than stellar vision...suggest you have your luthier/tech have a good look at it to evaluate how extensive the damage is...whether it was shipped that way or it happened in shipping, it looks like it could need a reset or someone has attempted it already...the second view looks like the headstock was banged into something and it's possible that a fracture is starting...or it's just a scratch.
 

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Three is the weird oder of some kind of glue , not one thats familiar and I sniffed alot of glue err ... scratch that last part LOL
All kidding aside, I recall someone mentioning that New Hartford's NCL smelled kinda funny so wondering if maybe that's what it really is?
Do you know what acetic acid is? It's what vinegar breaks down into but it's got a really distinct odor, once you've smelled it you'll always remember it.
One of the volatile gases formed by NCL curing is closely related to it, so wondering if it might be that component you're smelling?
Don't remember if it was the same person but I also recall a ref to New Hartford finish smelling either like licorice or roses, because I made a joke about 'em adding it to their finish specifically to create that effect...
Dunno what the prob is on the 'stock or the fretboard extension (THAT one's ungood) but wondering if it might have been a "B" stock because of that.
Some of the last inventory was blown out while the Cordoaba deal was finalizing and there was some B stock in it.
Don't remember if it was all ID'd that way on the actual instrument, but TX might know.
Let me know if this is too easy to understand.
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After all that, Jane might have nailed it on the head, so to speak, as she often does.
If the headstock was banged "end on" it might have cracked the finish around the headstock/faceplate and I could see how that could have created the problem at the 'board extension too.
 
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Yup I agree not good .
B stock yeah good call should noted as such I think ?
Glue smell weird strong get out when I opened it , with 2010 I find it hard to believe it’s the NCL Oder also someone put the pickup in it there’s sawdust still in side the Guitar .

Ok so Dave’s Guitar got back to me offering no option but return and their apologies.

Told ya I’m anal about fret boards on the pleking thread lol

Anyway damn shame guess she’s going back ! Now where’s that F50R Sunburst because she just moved up on the list !!! Lol

Edit , there’s no evidence of headstock trauma .
 
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Hey Ray, That pic of the neck to body joint is not good. Also in that same picture if you will look at the edge of the 13th fret it looks like it is pulling up from the fretboard towards the edge as if it is not seated properly or was dislodged due to the neck problem at the joint. I would suggest checking all the fret edges to make sure there are no gaps between them and the fretboard itself.

As far as the headstock issue it is very possible that it took a hit causing the seam to start to show. Another thing to look at closely is the string nut and the way it seats into the nut slot. If the headstock did take a hit it is pretty common for there to be a hairline crack at the string nut on either side and sometimes there is hairline crack curving from the nut area and following the edge of the fretboard to neck seam which is a start of a fretboard separation and the only way to properly repair that is to remove the entire fretboard, refit it and reglue it, and then refinish the neck itself. That is a very expensive repair to have done.

As far as it being marked a "B" stock, New Hartford used a very small stamp with the letter "B" and normally placed it on the right side of the label. It is small enough to look like someone took a sharpie and just put a dot on the label. They also marked some as "B" stock by actually writing "B Stock" on the label in the model designation line.

I didn't think about it previously but the seller you bought it from is the same one that turns the contrast way up on his photos in the ads to make the guitars appear more figured than they sometimes are. I think a member here bought a Nightbird from the same seller and returned it as when it arrived the color was no where close to what the high contrast photos showed in the ad.

Personally I wouldn't even try to get that one fixed with the neck issue you showed in the photo. These pop up pretty regularly on Reverb and Ebay as there are a few there now and I think another guitar could be a much better starting point than having to have this one fixed. I believe there is one on Reverb right now with a JJB pickup "Similar to the K&K Pure Mini" for a very reasonable price.

Best of luck in what ever you decide and sorry it showed up in that shape. If you want me to check out any other photos feel free to send them to me in a PM or just post them here and I will see them eventually. Have a Good one.

TX
 
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Yup nut has a spot between it and the finger board seen it but did not mention it , this has the ill feeling of the cv-1 shame really :(

I’ll take another look at the label in the Am

They offered a possible neck reset from their tech guy .

Honestly I don’t really trust techs for that kind of work not hating but if their good enough to master that they should be building guitars and surpass the tech level .
 

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Yup nut has a spot between it and the finger board seen it but did not mention it , this has the ill feeling of the cv-1 shame really :(

I’ll take another look at the label in the Am

They offered a possible neck reset from their tech guy .

Honestly I don’t really trust techs for that kind of work not hating but if their good enough to master that they should be building guitars and surpass the tech level .

I think that you are being very kind. This seller is a professional...and frankly...I find it hard to believe that they didn't 'know better'. I'm not suggesting that you seek revenge or punch holes in your walls....but I hope that you have no emotional attachment to this purchase....because you should ship it back...receive refund...and move on. You were buying a guitar....not a headache. It looks to me like Dave's Guitars sold you a headache. You were not purchasing a guitar with issues....you were purchasing a guitar. I'm sorry that your transaction was not a smooth one....but fixing your new (if only to you) guitar whether yourself or at this dealer/seller is not a good idea imo. Oh...and the last person that I would allow to repair it...is the dealer that had shipped me that guitar without disclosing some obvious condition issues.

Sorry if I sound a bit strong here.....but for me....."Dave's Guitars" just got added to my 'do not buy guitars sight unseen' list.
 
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Yes I agree with everyone . I wrote two emails last night the first one sending it back and letting them have look and possible fix then the second one explaining that after thinking about the issues and a consensus with follow Guild lovers ( yes I had to give credit without letting the cat out the of bag of who these Guild lovers are ) I feel this should be a return and full refund .

I asked to be sent a shipping label so we’ll see how it goes .
 

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Yup nut has a spot between it and the finger board seen it but did not mention it , this has the ill feeling of the cv-1 shame really :(
Yeah it's like you're jinxed for F30 bodies, but at least you knew to expect issues with the CV goin' in.


I’ll take another look at the label in the Am

They offered a possible neck reset from their tech guy .
Honestly I don’t really trust techs for that kind of work not hating but if their good enough to master that they should be building guitars and surpass the tech level .
I think that may have just been a semantic interpretation thing in using the term, but you've already been through rescuing a "borderline" piece once so why do it again, at all?
God's tryin' to tell ya sumthin', and it smells like an F50.
 

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Yeah it's like you're jinxed for F30 bodies, but at least you knew to expect issues with the CV goin' in.


I’ll take another look at the label in the Am


I think that may have just been a semantic interpretation thing in using the term, but you've already been through rescuing a "borderline" piece once so why do it again, at all?
God's tryin' to tell ya sumthin', and it smells like an F50.


F50 ... R ! Lol

Dave’s Guitar is trying to hold out not sending me a shipping label WTH ? Thing is their avoiding coming out just saying hey you need to pay for it then I can get an argument with but noooooooo they don’t want an argument that’s in the next office this office is for silly walks .
 

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If it's shipping damage they're likely hassling with their insurer trying to cover their butts prior to refunding.
 

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F50 ... R ! Lol

Dave’s Guitar is trying to hold out not sending me a shipping label WTH ? Thing is their avoiding coming out just saying hey you need to pay for it then I can get an argument with but noooooooo they don’t want an argument that’s in the next office this office is for silly walks .

Contact Reverb or Ebay depending on where it was listed and let them know what is going on if they give you any more problems. They will straighten out and light a fire if need be.

TX
 

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Contact Reverb or Ebay depending on where it was listed and let them know what is going on if they give you any more problems. They will straighten out and light a fire if need be.

TX

You should let your credit card company know what is going on. From the OP...I assume you bought this direct from Dave's Guitar Shop right? Document everything....and do EVERYTHING via email and in writing WITH PHOTOS. See their return policy....and return return return....even if you have to pay the UPS shipping.
 

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You should let your credit card company know what is going on. From the OP...I assume you bought this direct from Dave's Guitar Shop right? Document everything....and do EVERYTHING via email and in writing WITH PHOTOS. See their return policy....and return return return....even if you have to pay the UPS shipping.

Yeah it was bought direct .
 

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And a mad dash to fedex ! And 100 bucks now I’m ticked off !!!
 

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You should let your credit card company know what is going on. From the OP...I assume you bought this direct from Dave's Guitar Shop right? Document everything....and do EVERYTHING via email and in writing WITH PHOTOS. See their return policy....and return return return....even if you have to pay the UPS shipping.

You saved me kitarkus ! I gave no thought to the return policy and went with the “ nah they won’t screw me thing “ but that’s exactly what they wanted if you ask me .

It was 48 hrs return . I made a mad dash for FedEx right after your post .

While checking out the return policy there were some pictures of the store and one I take was Dave .

I’m not politically correct never was but I did not get a fuzzy warm feeling gazing upon said Dave more like arm a yourself and shot to ... well you know lol

I hope I have no further issues .

Thanks again and hugs 🤗
 

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Brazilian does, I personally don't think that East Indian Rosewood does. EI Rosewood to me, smells somewhat like vinegar: Maple has a mild smell, and it really deosn't stick around for long.
 

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Brazilian does, I personally don't think that East Indian Rosewood does. EI Rosewood to me, smells somewhat like vinegar: Maple has a mild smell, and it really deosn't stick around for long.

Have no doubt that this smell was chemical not natural lol in this Guitar .


On the smell side my custom with African Blackwood smells like heaven ever time I open the case no vinegar in this stuff :)
 
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