Country-western: forced accents?

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And I'm gonna include Kathy Mattea in this small group. She's a big fav of mine.
 

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davismanLV said:
It is absolutely NOT JUST YOUR IMAGINATION!! That's one thing I have a huge problem with..... country singers who TRY to sing "country". The "twang" and certain sounds they use that they exaggerate like crazy.

If we're talking about what is labeled "country" in the mainstream media, I absolutely agree. It's because that stuff is all about selling a product, and it's mostly image-driven

davismanLV said:
That's one of the things I love about Suzi Bogguss. She just sings. Clear and sweet and on pitch..... not sneaking up on her notes. She doesn't try to sing "country". That's why Chet Atkins loved her too.

Suzi started doing folk stuff and a LOT of Emmylou Harris material. She worked for a short while with one of the first bands I was in, around 1977. She and the other firl singer put together a duet of "Stand By Your Man" and "DIVORCE". She used to hang out at our house, and years later when she had CMTV video play I got to tell my elderly next-door neighbors that one of the people who used to bug them when we sat out on the porch until 2 AM playing and singing was Suzi.

John
 

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Guild Dawg said:
Australia and New Zealand are in the South, aren't they?

I tend to find my southern accent gets heavier depending on the physical attractiveness of the woman whose company I'm sharing at that moment. The purdier she is, the more noticeable my accent becomes. Or as Conway Twitty would say, "Hello Darlin'":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ej9Dqhe5p4

Yes mate! Both Australia and New Zealand are south and New Zealand is souther. The New Zealand accent (especailly the south Island) can never really be confused with an Australian accent.

As far as Mr Urban is concerned, he stopped being country a long time ago. You can keep him or send him back to NZ. But we may claim the wife.
 

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Fake southern accents??? It never happens around here...

' Strang ... er, ummm, I mean ' String
 

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Darryl Hattenhauer said:
Also, is it my imagination, or are there a lot more humbuckers in country lately?

Not only is that true, also the country lead guitar players have upped their game immensely compared to the good old days.


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Well, I could say that I don't sing with a country accent, but then again, I don't sing at all. :)
There's a reason I'm the "bass man," not the "lead vocals man," 'cause I'd clear the place pretty quick with my singing.
 

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killdeer43 said:
Shazam!! :shock:
Joe
Y'know, if it weren't for Gomer Pyle I never would have known there were actually 3 syllables in "Shazam". Yes, the roots of this trend go back farther than most of us remember. :lol:
 

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Strange to say, that on some songs I slip a little ways into a country accent, which doesn't make too much sense for someone born in Chicago and raised in the Bronx. I live in KS now so maybe something in the water is having an effect. When I first came here everyone seemed to speak with what I called a southern accent. Locals got very insulted and said its a western accent, but certainly did not sound like what I heard in the Rocky Mountain states. Now I don't hear it at all.

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jte said:
davismanLV said:
Suzi started doing folk stuff and a LOT of Emmylou Harris material. She worked for a short while with one of the first bands I was in, around 1977. She and the other firl singer put together a duet of "Stand By Your Man" and "DIVORCE". She used to hang out at our house, and years later when she had CMTV video play I got to tell my elderly next-door neighbors that one of the people who used to bug them when we sat out on the porch until 2 AM playing and singing was Suzi.

John


When I listen to suzi, I hear a lot of southern twang, how many people living in central Ill. Have that twang in their voices? I lived for 12 years in Iowa, further south then where she grew up and most people did not have that twang. I lived for a year in Decatur, Al. and you did not hear the southern twang, But as soon as you stopped in a smaller town, the twang came out. I was told by a Decatur Al native the use of southern twang is a measure of intelligence. Him claiming that the higher intellect did not use the twang. do not agree but found it interesting. The country you hear today is not country, it is poor rock and roll or music from the 80's, worst decade for music.

Dan L
 

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dlutter said:
jte said:
davismanLV said:
Suzi started doing folk stuff and a LOT of Emmylou Harris material. She worked for a short while with one of the first bands I was in, around 1977. She and the other firl singer put together a duet of "Stand By Your Man" and "DIVORCE". She used to hang out at our house, and years later when she had CMTV video play I got to tell my elderly next-door neighbors that one of the people who used to bug them when we sat out on the porch until 2 AM playing and singing was Suzi.

John


When I listen to suzi, I hear a lot of southern twang, how many people living in central Ill. Have that twang in their voices? I lived for 12 years in Iowa, further south then where she grew up and most people did not have that twang. I lived for a year in Decatur, Al. and you did not hear the southern twang, But as soon as you stopped in a smaller town, the twang came out. I was told by a Decatur Al native the use of southern twang is a measure of intelligence. Him claiming that the higher intellect did not use the twang. do not agree but found it interesting. The country you hear today is not country, it is poor rock and roll or music from the 80's, worst decade for music.

Dan L
Well, Suzy will sound like where she's from, but I don't hear a severe or even medium "twang". But that's just my personal opinion. But also, she doesn't "sing country" which in most ways means she doesn't scoop her notes. What Chet Atkins used to call "sneaking up on your notes". That's a style that's particularly prevalent in a lot of country music. People can change their style of speech (or singing) to suit the occasion. I have a friend who was born and raised in an upper class family in Birmingham, AL, and when he and I are talking on the phone, you might detect a slight accent and use of certain words which might locate him.... but it's very minor. He sounds kinda universal. But let him walk into a Walmart or Chik-Fil-A and talk to the counter people and .... suddenly I can't understand a word he says!! Weird.....

Can't pass up the opportunity to share another example of this amazing voice. Songs don't get more "country" than this. Classic by Merle Haggard from early in her career. Listen to her voice. She phrases perfectly, she hits every note cleanly, and I detect no overt accent. Doesn't get much better than this: http://youtu.be/zB4scDvqogU

Not only that, she can yodel better than anyone I know..... 8) 8)
 
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