Buzz Feiten compensated nut

taabru45

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fearless said:
Here is a radical solution.

http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php

I think two problems are being addressed, one is the fretting effect, and the other is the "true temperament" thing, which dictates a different fret shape for each key.

It will never make an H chord sound good though...


That would have made players crazy in the 60s man....like you'd look at the fretboard to see your finger positions, and then oh wow...like waves without whitecaps....groooovy man....like totally far out...! :lol: :lol: Steffan
 

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taabru45 said:
fearless said:
Here is a radical solution.
http://www.truetemperament.com/site/index.php
I think two problems are being addressed, one is the fretting effect, and the other is the "true temperament" thing, which dictates a different fret shape for each key.
It will never make an H chord sound good though...

That would have made players crazy in the 60s man....like you'd look at the fretboard to see your finger positions, and then oh wow...like waves without whitecaps....groooovy man....like totally far out...! :lol: :lol: Steffan

Tune it, turn on and drop out with our new White Rabbit model, featuring the patented Lucy in the Sky fretboard! :lol: :lol:
 

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I've used Earvana nuts on acoustics, solid bodies, and archtops since they first came out. I'm also an endorser. I tend to play up and down when possible, rather than across. This is especially true when comping jazz chords. IF I'm playing anything except 20's music or raw blues, I won't play without it. The difference (to my ears) is very noticeable. People usually comment on how in tune I play, and many chords sound much sweeter with the compensation. I just had one put on my mid 90's X170 yesterday. It's a great thing. I can't play fast, but I sure as hell play in tune and with great time.
 

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I just had one put on my mid 90's X170 yesterday. It's a great thing. I can't play fast, but I sure as hell play in tune and with great time.[/quote]

I guess a great time was had by all. :D Steffan
 

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I've not really considered these systems , but this thread has me reading all your suggestions .......... umm ..
I have always just tuned at the 3rd fret and find that's better than open , since I don't play open chords on my archtops or Tele.
Years ago ( 2001 ? ) I bought a Peterson Strobe VS-1 and that's when I could measure these differences well .
I find the intonation with a similar tension TI set is better than the usual string diameter jumps of "other" sets .
 

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I just plain got frustrated with always playing chord solos out of tune. After the first guitar, everything else felt wrong, so I put it on everything. I'd recommend it to you unless you have an incredibly light touch. Those players never seem to be out of tune. It's cheap, easy, and reversible.
 

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Sorry to rain on the Buzz...

I did this to a Starfire IV. It was a late 90s blond. I played in a large band at the time. The guitar was a fantastic guitar so I wanted to try this out and make it "even better". Had it done by a very reputable Hollywood luthier at a pretty good chunk of change and parted with it for a long time... maybe 6 weeks.

HATED it.

Had it re-done a year later by a good local friend (pro luthier) who went through the cert course by Buzz F ... Still found it funky. Sold the guitar and swore I would never do it again. It ruined that guitar for me. Never could get it to tune as well as stock and had a fancy tuner to help out..... WASTE of MONEY!

My 63CS tele with old school saddles had better intonation stock! My current Starfire will never get subjected to any such thing.

Now my theory is that if you play soft, and play jazz without bends or any crunchy stuff with some heavy attack ... It might be ok. I love the sound of a E chord hammerd through a tweed amp and when you do that with a compensated nut something less pleasing happens.
 

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I'll still swear by my earvana nuts (much sweeter than cashews). It's inexpensive and easy to reverse. I also insist that my guitars be plekked if there is any fretwork to be done. I'm bound to Phil Jacoby of Philtone Guitars for these reasons. By the way, I pound the hell out of a non cutaway Loar L-450 when playing big band swing. I also coax the sound out of a very good X-170 when playing more modern music. The nut works in both instances. That's why I like them.
 
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