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I believe it was established that cmg handles Guild warrantees.
Charlie, not pickin' on ya but I don't get how that could work...but Fender is ultimately responsible for NH warranty repairs.
As far as I read it FMIC are no longer liable, CMG took over.FMIC warranted NH Guild guitars, not Guild. They're still liable.
HI Dreamics, welcome aboard! Yes they do watch this forum and I'm absolutely positive everything said in this thread is being considered and digested. Your other post about the nature of marketing and brand image building shows some great insight, and maybe personal experience?
No, FMIC are no longer liable, CMG took over.
See: http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sh...ild-warranty&p=1646307&viewfull=1#post1646307 and http://guildguitars.com/warranty-policy/
Ralf
Our moderator Frono was conducting an informal survey about that same subject about the time I joined.Experience? well, I'm sensitive to what brands really mean.
When I saw a first post, my thought was to offer a WELCOME TO LTG, but after reading the last line, should I change that to ADIOS?Guild - Schmild - Let's face it, it's over. Fender killed it the minute they bought it, schlepping it all over the country, slashing jobs and livelihoods in the pursuit of profit, and then dumped it onto another Californian Co. - a place with such a tradition of acoustic guitar making right? whose first task is to re-do the Chinese range. It's over, forget it,
enjoy your old guitars, that's all there is now. My first and probably my last post.
As far as I read it FMIC are no longer liable, CMG took over.
See: http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sh...ild-warranty&p=1646307&viewfull=1#post1646307 and http://guildguitars.com/warranty-policy/
Ralf
I'm not concerned, because I don't anticipate any warranty claims, however nothing in those threads, or in CMG's current Guild warranty, indicates that they accepted, purchased or whatever, FMIC's warranty liabilities. They state that they'll be handling warranty claims for purchases after 7/14, but make no statement concerning purchases prior to that time. Member bonecrusher inquired whether they would be warranting Guild guitars. They said the purchase was complete, so they'd be doing the warranting. Nothing was said about prior purchases. Again, I'm sure it's not a problem, but I'm not aware of a definitive statement as to who is legally responsible for FMIC's warranty liabilities.
Food for thought: FMIC warranted NH Guild guitars, not Guild. They're still liable. If CMG gracefully accepts the liability, great, but Fender is ultimately responsible for NH warranty repairs.
In that first link I posted CMG had sent an e-mail answer to bonecrusher in July 2014 saying: "The acquisition of Guild is now final, so any warranty claims will be handled by Cordoba Music Group." That was after he was asking who would honor the warranty on a new NH Guild. And CMGs warranty document was from mid 2014, and CMG clearly had not produced any Guild guitars, so it was sounding clear they will honor all previous Guilds warranty claims within the limits provided in that document. Now I understand as a lawyer one can argue if that only applied to NH Guilds purchased new after the acquisition happened, so I understand where you came from with your thoughts. Sometimes those documents are not written completely bullet proof......however nothing in those threads, or in CMG's current Guild warranty, indicates that they accepted, purchased or whatever, FMIC's warranty liabilities. .
some hardcore Westerly Guild fans might shake their heads in dusgust at some Guild/Cordoba news.
The whole GAD line has been re-done, some new models, new cosmetics, headstocks along the Newark Street line look, Chesterfield inlays,....and in a move I find somewhat, well,...odd......the whole line has been re-christened "THE WESTERLY SERIES".
Well the Guild plant in Westerly was on Industrial Drive. So the "Industrial Drive Collection" doesn't really have much of a ring to it.
I understand the using the Westerly name, and it does honor the heritage, but I have to agree it will be confusing.
This post helped me put this all in perspective.If Ren was still with Gibson, I wonder what he'd think about them coming out with a Chinese built line of Gibson acoustics called "The Bozeman Collection"? Or, maybe "The Kalamazoo Collection"?
Here's another analogy ; for those of you who bought an Orpheum series, how many actually thought they were buying an early 20th century mandolin? :friendly_wink:
Welcome aboard.Why no prototypes for the new guitars at namm or musikmesse ?
Welcome aboard.
According to what we heard here, the Oxnard facility is still awaiting permitting/licensing to produce guitars.
Here's another analogy ; for those of you who bought an Orpheum series, how many actually thought they were buying an early 20th century mandolin? :friendly_wink:
As I'm reading the responses in this thread to Cordoba's decision to attach a label that most of us hold near and dear, you've have look at this from their marketing viewpoint. They're in the business of selling new guitars. They're concerned about the history of Guild only if it translates into sales. If their marketing guys can mine the past by debasing the Westerly name and slapping it on a MIC guitar, sadly, it's going to happen. The automotive industry has been doing this for years. I'm not sure if a Pontiac LeMans ever raced at the fabled French race course, but you get the idea.It's just gonna be confusing. If they're keeping with the Newark Street theme, then figure out what street Westerly was on and name it the "_________ Street Collection". But don't name it by a factory name. Then things get so confusing. This is a really dumb idea..... what a shame.
Why didn't they run it by us first?