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Just my opinion, but it seems that too many are getting their knickers in a twist over what may or may not be. Cordoba and Guild have been working hard to get the new Guild factory in Oxnard up and running. It is also clear that the import line is receiving some attention as well. To date I have seen new Asian electrics begin to trickle in, but no new Asian acoustics. We in LTG may think we are the collective arbiter of all that is correct and acceptable in the transition of Guild from Fender to Cordoba, but I agree with crank that we as a group are not the target market for offshore Guilds. Regarding the presence or absence of "Made in China" on a guitar that has not even hit the market yet, there are legal minds handling every aspect of this transition, and I am confident that they understand international trade laws better than we do. As for "Westerly Collection", perhaps a better name could have been chosen. On the other hand, in the end we could be making a big fuss over nothing. Does anyone really think there will be confusion over Westerly made guitars that specify Westerly, RI, USA on the label versus those that say Westerly Collection? I'm not pointing anyone out specifically, but let's all step back, relax, and play our great Guild guitars while we wait to see what Guild and Cordoba will do.

Sorry to all for the rant. I'm just not one to make accusations before all of the facts are in, or in this case before the guitars even hit the stores. I will npw get some sleep, and will certainly feel better in the morning.

It doesn't take a financial wizard to observe that the only income Cordoba has coming in from Guild right now comes from the imported lines.

It does take an anal nitpicker to observe that not all instruments made in Westerly have that word on the label, although they all do indicate US origin.
 

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It does take an anal nitpicker to observe that not all instruments made in Westerly have that word on the label, although they all do indicate US origin.

Yes! I have owned a couple Guilds in my time that did not have the Westerly, RI and zip on the label. Just US. Ironically, the label in the D25BR fell out years before I bought it, all that is left is the label footprint. :)
 

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What confused him was a person sitting at the next table. Long, flowing blonde hair, nice blue nails, nicely excessorized, and with a very well trimmed beard! :highly_amused::unsure: The confusion to me was why, if this guy was interested in becoming a woman, would he keep the beard? I was confused, so I can't imagine how confused my son was. Good ol' Cambridge!

Maybe The Gentleman/Gentile lady had job interviews coming up for the positions of "The Bearded Lady" at the local carnival or "The Lunch Server" at a school cafeteria and was just trying to impress! Got to imagine the benefits packages with both jobs could be enticing for someone with nice hygiene.:laughing: LOL
 

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Then drag it out to Guild Acoustic Design. Does that sound cold and sterile? Maybe so..... LOL!!

Fender tried that in 2004 and look what happened.
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Just the names alone... GAD sounds cold and sterile, Westerly Collection sounds warm and inviting.
"Comforter Collection"?

I personnally enjoyed following this discussion, for the fun of it, but we'll have to wait and see.
Right. Wild Speculation and its close cousin the Veer are some of our favorite sports around here. The fringe benefit is the historical and logistic trivia that surface while "sporting".
:smile:
And what will come out of Oxnard, CA is what I am the most looking forward to (this last sentence seems awkward, is it right??).
I understood it perfectly. But that may not be the best endorsement you could find :biggrin-new:
By the way, I like the expression "to get one's knickers in a twist". Thank you guys for enriching my English!
And now imagine how painful it must get for those who "go commando"....(no knickers at all)
The confusion to me was why, if this guy was interested in becoming a woman, would he keep the beard? I was confused, so I can't imagine how confused my son was. Good ol' Cambridge!
"Son, transvestites just like to celebrate Halloween all year long."
 
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The original "thugs" wore knickers.

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OTOH, it could cause market confusion. A lot of buyers may think Westerly Guilds were MIC guitars. OTOH, it fits right in with the Newark Street collection idea, which I did not find objectionable.

I don't know what to think about it really. I wish Cordoba well. I hope it brings back some Westerly models made in USA - at a reasonable price point. F65ce for starters.
 
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Does anyone know the differences between the GAD Series and the new era Westerly Collection ?
 

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Does anyone know the differences between the GAD Series and the new era Westerly Collection ?

Not so sure myself, but it might be that the Westerly Collection adds a chesterfield inlay to the headstock, tortoiseshell pickguard, and a lightweight fabric case. I like this type of lightweight case for use around the house only. Truthfully, they should discontinue the GAD series as existing stock runs out, as it doesn't make sense to continue both of these MIC guitar lines. I'm also wondering if the Westerly Collection will also replace the U.S. built Standard series? I'm thinking that would make sense too.



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I read the neck is now finished and the profile is a vintage shape. Along with what you pointed out that could be it.
 

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I read the neck is now finished and the profile is a vintage shape. Along with what you pointed out that could be it.

Also, I don't see any truss rod cover on headstock of the Westerly Collection.

Tommy
 

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I should also add that barring any unforeseen quality control issues, I think Guild is going to hit a home run with this new MIC Westerly Collection.

Tommy
 

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I read the neck is now finished and the profile is a vintage shape. Along with what you pointed out that could be it.

Pre-2011 GAD models had finished necks (see, for example, my GAD-F20e). Also, the Chesterfield has featured on the headstock of most GAD guitars (though not all--again, see my GAD-F20e), dating back to when they were first introduced a decade ago.

No question, the new guitars appear to be closer to classic Guild designs than any of the previous MIC guitars: they don't have the weird pick guard shape of the first GADs, and they're less plain than the more recent ones.
 

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Also, I don't see any truss rod cover on headstock of the Westerly Collection.
Tommy
That would probably indicate that the truss adjusts through the soundhole, just like the GAD's did.
RE "Doesn't make sense to continue both of these MIC lines..."
I tend to agree but it also occurred to me that perhaps they've already replaced 'em, but simply haven't made a formal announcement for the simple reaso taht ther is still product in the pipeline, or even as I mentioend in the thread linked below, that theris Fender intellectual property in their construction that Cordoba didn't acquire, one possibility being the "dual action truss rod". I stress that's just conjecture on my part.

More thorough discussion of differences can be found in this thread, starting at about post number 84:
http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sh...roducing-the-Guild-Westerly-Collection/page10
 
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... I'm also wondering if the Westerly Collection will also replace the U.S. built Standard series?...

I don't think so. We've seen plenty of indication that Guild intends to introduce lower-end, made-in-USA models--specifically, the D20 and M20 (see here for a preliminary listing of the M20 at Elderly, though at this point the June 30 expected arrival date seems overly optimistic). Both of these are all-mahogany, satin-finished guitars street priced at $1399. They strike me as more plausible replacements for the Standard Series (moved slightly down-market) in the eyes of the marketplace than the MIC guitars.
 
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