Wider nut on my D-55 is great

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I had the day off so I finally replaced the nut on my D-55 with one with wider spacing. A recent post about a new nut on a D-50 showed that lots of you have had a more widely-spaced nut put on a Guild dred. I wanted wider spacing but I didn't want the hassle and expense of files to cut new one myself to try out the spacing. So I purchased a preslotted Tusq nut from Graphtech.

I just want to pass on that the Tusq nut PQ-6134-00 has worked out very well. The E-to-E spacing is 1.496 inches (38.00 mm), and that feels very comfortable to me. Its about 0.070 inch wider than the original E-to-E. They have some with even wider E-to-E spacing, but I would be concerned about getting too close to the edges of the fretboad.

Getting the original nut out of the guitar was the hardest part. The nut is in a slot between the fretboard and headstock veneer, and the neck was finished after the nut was installed. So I had to score the finish along the headstock side and all around the ends with an X-Acto knife. It was glued in pretty solidly and was hard to tap out. Once it was out, I cleaned the slot and then filed and sanded the Tusq nut to fit. I had to take about 0.010 inch off of the back face and about 0.020 inch off of the bottom. Then about 0.010 inch off of the treble end and about 0.020 inch off the bass end.

It was a nice snug fit, and I tightened the strings and have been playing away. I really like the wider string spacing, as many others have said. Next time I change strings I'll probably glue it in. For now, the strings are just holding it in place.

I'll anticipate the question and say that no, I have not noticed a difference in tone between the Tusq and the original bone. Now that I know what string spacing I want I may make a bone one someday to have a harder material, but for now it seems just fine.
 

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Just a suggestion.
When you glue the nut in place, use a very small amount of glue.
This will make it easier for removal next time.
 

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What kind of glue TMG? Don's just fashioned nut, saddle and pins for my D25, but I've just got the strings holding the nut in place. Superglue? Elmer's?

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I just use a very small drop of super glue West.
 

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Thank you sir! Gotta wait till I change strings now....guess I could loosen them.

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cjd, thanks for posting this. I didn't realize you could get preslotted nuts with different string spacings. I'm anticipating I'll need something like this when get my GAD JF-30 with a 1 11/16" nut.
I checked the spacing on my present most-used fingerstyle guitar and it was 38.5 mm. - just a tiny hair more than the one you describe, which should feel comfy enough.
 
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I'm the guy who posted about the wider nut on my D50. The lesson is that sometimes we are too quick to buy new guitars when a simple change on our existing guitars can make them exactly what we want.

Jim
 

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NO NO NO not Super Glue. :shock: :shock: :shock: You might want to remove it later on and super glue will take wood away with it if you do. Even the instructions that come with the Tusq nut say don't use Super Glue. Personally, I doubt that I will ever glue mine in because I got a nice snug fit. If it fits well, the only reason for the glue would be to keep it from sliding sidways.

For a nut that is not in a slot, and just butts against the end of the fret board, then glue would be necessary to keep it in place. But just a SMALL dot of common white glue like Elmers is what the instructions said. A reason for using common white glue is that if there would ever be great difficulty in removing it, the glue could be softened with water.

Keep your guitar repairable (able to be disassembled). Never use Super Glue or Epoxy anywhere on it.
 

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I replaced the original bone nut with a wider spaced bone nut on my D-55 and I find it much better for me. Most of my guitars have 1 3/4" nuts, so this helps alot.
 

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i did this several times and i had some difficulty with the high E sliding off the edge of the fret board, and if i would keep the normal distance on the High E side then it would push it to close to the low E side. i am sure there are other fret boards that are wider so this would work better. I tried this on a Martin and a GAD. The GAD was already 1.75 but i wanted it wider (didn't work well).
 

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dpicker said:
i did this several times and i had some difficulty with the high E sliding off the edge of the fret board, and if i would keep the normal distance on the High E side then it would push it to close to the low E side. i am sure there are other fret boards that are wider so this would work better. I tried this on a Martin and a GAD. The GAD was already 1.75 but i wanted it wider (didn't work well).

I'd definitely agree with the idea of shifting the group of strings very slightly toward the bass edge when your widening the spacing. I think there is less risk of the bass being pushed over the fretboard edge than with the treble E, plus it makes thumb-over fretting easier.
 
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