"waking up" a top

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A guitar has to be played to stay resonant. This is a known fenomenon amongst classical guitar that shouldn't be stored for prolonged periods of time or they lose their tone.

You shouldn't beat the living daylights out of the guitar though. I once was a prospect buyer of a nylon and that's when I first heard about this fenomenon. "Playing a few scales on the instrument should take care of it." the seller said. Right he was.
 

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Some acoustic guitar shops play recorded music to help keep the guitars vibrating.
I have always noticed that my own guitars will get mad at me if I don't play them for a while.
It will take an hour or so to get them to open back up.
I guess we just need to play our guitars!
 

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Is this perhaps the answer to the debate of keeping in the c

or leaving on a stand in the open where the tops can resonate? Maybe all those closet guitars are just wilting away :>
tj
 

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I try to play each of my five Guild dreads at least a couple minutes every day... not so much to keep them "awake," but so that I can honestly say, when the wife asks why I need so many, "Well Honey, I play them ALL!"
 
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i've heard of pleny of people swear by propping their guitars up against their stereo speakers, putting on loud music, and walking away for a length of time
 

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Yes, I read the article, and here is something useful:

There are a lot of rumors going around, a lot of theories about guitar tops, their vibratings and aging and all that.
George Gruhn wrote an article on this subject, and even though I cannot quote him word for word, here is the content of what he said.
The tone of a solid wood acoustic guitar does not “come and go”, and have to be played constantly in order to “open-up” to its fullness. Nor does it get better and better as the years go by.
What happens is the resins in the wood of a new guitar are stiff, and yes, it does take some vibrations to get those molecules rattled. This is done by playing the guitar vigorously, or by putting it in front of a guitar amp, and playing it loud (the electric) so the top vibrates, or in front of your stereo cabinets, etc. All these things will excite the top, make it vibrate, shake up those resins, and the guitar opens up. And sounds better.

This process takes place in the first few years of the guitar’s life, and then . . . it stops.

Yes, contrary to popular opinion, the guitar doesn’t go anywhere past that point. The resins settle in, and remain so for the life of the instrument. No matter how much you bang away at it!
(Old Martins sound good not because they keep getting better as the years go by; they were just made with better wood, better processes, finishes, etc.)
Now, if that guitar gets put away in a closet for a long time, say, several years, the “aging” process reverses itself, and the guitar goes back into its original state.

(Hoo, Boy; I betcha didn't know that!)

Then, the guitar has to be played, the top vibrated; either by outside sources (IE: the stereo, or the guitar cabinet, etc.) or by normal playing, just to “wake it up" again.
But it doesn’t need to be a daily thing.
Hope this clears up any misunderstandings.
 

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Metalman, I have been given the same information, with the exception of arched top instruments like violins, mandolins etc. They do open up more over the years.
Do you believe this to be true?
 

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Taylor Martin Guild said:
Metalman, I have been given the same information, with the exception of arched top instruments like violins, mandolins etc. They do open up more over the years.
Do you believe this to be true?

Hm-m-m . . .
Don't know much about that . . .
Wouldn't the same principal apply? Now I am guessing.
 

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Good ole conditioning and physics... Muscles receive tone from exercise. Same, same guitar tops... The more we play, the more the wood exercises to achieve optimal tone... Humidity palys a very important role and 45 - 55% plus exercise equals optimal performance. Jus' for what its worth...
 

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Based on my personal experience I have to agree with Metalman. My D25CH was played daily for 7 years. Then it was detuned a whole step, put in it's case and stuck under my bed for 22 years. I "awakened" it last year and it sings as sweet as when I put her away. I really love the guitar but since I went from a washboard build to a bag of laundry build during those 22 years it's a little big to reach around. lol

SugarMountain...I take it you're a big Neil Young fan from your avatar and your name. :) I played in a band for 16 years in the 60's, 70's and 80's and 95% of our cover was Neil Young and Crazy Horse, CSNY, and most any other material by him. We played one night a week acoustically in wine and cheese places and four or five nights in bars. The remaining nights were practices. We had the Crazy Horse sound dead on at that time. :) I also got to witness the needle and the damage done first hand. :( The bass player and myself are the only ones left alive today and he's got cancer. Sad commentary. I put the guitars down in order to remove myself from that scene.


:)
 

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mole2: It wouldn't surprise me if your D-25 could hold its tone for 22 years.

After all, it's a D-25.

I think that article applies mainly to guitars that aren't D-25's.

That's what I think anyway.
 

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Scratch said:
Good ole conditioning and physics... Muscles receive tone from exercise. Same, same guitar tops... The more we play, the more the wood exercises to achieve optimal tone... Humidity palys a very important role and 45 - 55% plus exercise equals optimal performance. Jus' for what its worth...

The only difference here, Scratch, is that muscles in a human body are living tissue, and still growing, still changing.
The wood in your guitar is dead, and can only go so far, in regards to exercise, stretching, conditioning, etc.
 

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GardMan said:
I try to play each of my five Guild dreads at least a couple minutes every day... not so much to keep them "awake," but so that I can honestly say, when the wife asks why I need so many, "Well Honey, I play them ALL!"

I do the same, but to keep ME awake . . .
 

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Mole2, good to hear your back at it. For me, guitars are my therapy. Sometimes I get a bit of grief from my wife "I wish I was one of your guitars!" she says. But my guitars always sing to me. Not always the case with "non-guitars" She's still a keeper though. :wink:
 
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