Two serial numbers on a label?

[Sats]

D-35 just posted to Reverb shows a label with a second number written at the bottom of the label.

I know that Guild used a secondary (ink-stamped) date code at the bottom of some labels in the early seventies, but this seems more like a second serial number(?) – and is hand written (though not by the same person who wrote the serial number above it).

Have never seen this before - any ideas?

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[fronobulax]

Is it a serial number? 70593 would be 1972.

72918 could be September 18, 1972.

 

[Sats]

Ah, I bet you’re right. First I’ve seen hand-written…

 

[GGJaguar]

Discussed here:

Two label numbers?

Hi Everyone, I have an old D35. I purchased it quite cheaply via mail here in Australia a few years ago - for sentimental reasons more than anything as I owned one back in the early '70s & had to sell it to finish my studies. It's got an amazing sound but the action was so high it was more or...

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[lungimsam]

Note that the two nines in the bottom number are drawn differently than the 9 in the official number.
Even the 7 looks like a different person wrote it.

 

[hansmoust]

72918 could be September 18, 1972.

That's correct, but this one reads 72919 for September 19, 1972!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[fronobulax]

That's correct, but this one reads 72919 for September 19, 1972!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

I am very pleased that the correction concerns my eyesight and not my memory. Thank you.

 

[lungimsam]

So what would 70593 decode as? It doesn't seem to decode the same way.

 

[Guildedagain]

Another, previously Hans'd, seeming to be a verb.

1971 serial #, 1972 completion date.

 

[fronobulax]

So what would 70593 decode as? It doesn't seem to decode the same way.

It doesn't. Where did it come from? Based on the other thread if it is really from a factory label then I would call it an internal manufacturing number.

 

[Nuuska]

Hans Book - on page 29 - second column - bottom :

Text gives an example of stamped number 721120

Label above w stamped number is 781128

However - serial # is not included in picture of label - so there's likely a natural explanation . . .

I might be on a sidetrack w this

 

[hansmoust]

So what would 70593 decode as? It doesn't seem to decode the same way.

70593 is the serial number of that guitar. It's a D-35 from the year 1972 and 72919 (1972-Sept-19) is the date that the guitar was completed in 'final assembly'.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[fronobulax]

It doesn't. Where did it come from? Based on the other thread if it is really from a factory label then I would call it an internal manufacturing number.

Duh. It was the serial number of the instrument being discussed. For future reference there is NO date information encoded in a Guild serial number from the 20th Century or, if you prefer, pre-Corona.

 

[hansmoust]

For future reference there is NO date information encoded in a Guild serial number from the 20th Century or, if you prefer, pre-Corona.

Oh yes, there was! All the guitars from the first 5 years of the Nashville Custom Shop had dating information in the serial number!

After that too, but that already was the 21st Century!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[fronobulax]

Oh yes, there was! All the guitars from the first 5 years of the Nashville Custom Shop had dating information in the serial number!

After that too, but that already was the 21st Century!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl

Some day's I should not post. Thank you. I sit corrected and thinking I should have finished my coffee first.

 

[GGJaguar]

I love learning, even if it means getting Hans'd.

 

[Westerly Wood]

all I know is I wish I could buy that patented Guild blue ink pen.

 

[adorshki]

all I know is I wish I could buy that patented Guild blue ink pen.

The earlier disappearing ink ones are more valuable.

 

[geoguy]

all I know is I wish I could buy that patented Guild blue ink pen.

But then nobody will be able to accurately read your writing . . .

 

[GGJaguar]

The earlier disappearing ink ones are more valuable.

I think that's what they are using in Oxnard on the Cert of Authenticity. The writing on the Cert for my Oxnard F-412 is fading fast and in a few years I'm not sure how readable it will be.