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[Steelpickin']

I think I understand what this means but, could someone translate for this uneducated moron

[[NICOLAS LUPOT LUTHIER RUE DE GRAMMOI A
PARIS I,AN 1803]]

Thanks!

 

[Walter Broes]

It looks like a luthier's business card - his name, profession, and adress. Does that answer your question?

 

[capnjuan]

I think I understand what this means but, could someone translate for this uneducated moron [[NICOLAS LUPOT LUTHIER RUE DE GRAMMOI A PARIS I,AN 1803]]

Hi Larry; subject to what bluesypicky has to say ...

Nicolas Lupot is somebody's name
Luthier is luthier in french and english but I'd think maker of stringed instruments is a better way to think of it since geetars weren't that big a thing back in the olden days
A roughly translates as 'at' ... modern french uses a little diacritical accent mark over the 'a' ... an 'accent grave' ... means rough 'at' or 'towards'
RUE DE GRAMMOI Street of Grammoi where Grammoi is a proper noun ... like a name ... it doesn't translate literally as in Street of The Fishemen or Rue des Pêcheurs ... think of it as Grammoi Street.
A PARIS in or at Paris
I Who knows ... could be an early form of zip code ... city divided into postal areas ID'd with Roman numerals ... don't know for sure.
AN 1803 the word 'AN' is literally 'year' or 'in the year 1803'

So ... I'd go with
name: Nicolas Lupot, maker of stringed instuments
street address: Grammoi Street
city: Paris (postal zone I ?)
year: 1803

My best guess ... John

 

[markus]

I do not know French but I'd also read the "I" as Roman numeral for the first district of Paris.
Markus

 

[Steelpickin']

Thanks all...pretty much what I came up with. Its on a label in an old violin I bought the other day. Thanks again.

 

[spiderman]

Dang, I thought it was a label on an Aragon prototype :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Harmony H-173 bought in 1960 (retired), Alvarez AC60S 2008, Eastman AC320ce 2008 "Hybrid", Guild GAD-JF30E(blonde) 2008, Guild JF55 1997, Guild D25M 1974, Martin Grand J35E 2009

 

[FNG]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Lupot

I think a Lupot violin came up on Antique roadshow the other day...it was valued at about 140,000...the original bow was valued at 30,000.

Seems like a lot of these were counterfeited during that time also...

Here's the clip on the Lupot violin...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/200701A36.html

 

[JerryR]

I think I understand what this means but, could someone translate for this uneducated moron

[[NICOLAS LUPOT LUTHIER RUE DE GRAMMOI A
PARIS I,AN 1803]]

Thanks!

I see it's already been translated for you Larry - I can also sing in French - 'Merde alors!' :mrgreen:

 

[bluesypicky]

What everybody said: Name, profession and address.
Jerry: I see you've had close contact with the French!!! :lol:

 

[Steelpickin']

I am sure its probably a counterfit but, I will take it a violin maker I know a few towns over just to see what he thinks. I bought it mainly to have another violin besides the one I am trying to learn to play and the one I am building ! Besides I figured a counterfit of a violin of that quality would still have to be a pretty fine fiddle

 

[JerryR]

Jerry: I see you've had close contact with the French!!! :lol:

They're right next door to us - centuries of war and conflict :evil:

 

[markus]

They were wise enough to have a moat on this side of neighbors … :mrgreen:
Markus

 

[Default]

I am sure its probably a counterfit but, I will take it a violin maker I know a few towns over just to see what he thinks. I bought it mainly to have another violin besides the one I am trying to learn to play and the one I am building ! Besides I figured a counterfit of a violin of that quality would still have to be a pretty fine fiddle

It reminds me of the time my dad bought a Stradivarius. The label was printed in English, but he wouldn't entertain the notion that it might have been a fake.

 

[killdeer43]

I am sure its probably a counterfit but, I will take it a violin maker I know a few towns over just to see what he thinks. I bought it mainly to have another violin besides the one I am trying to learn to play and the one I am building ! Besides I figured a counterfit of a violin of that quality would still have to be a pretty fine fiddle

It reminds me of the time my dad bought a Stradivarius. The label was printed in English, but he wouldn't entertain the notion that it might have been a fake.

Reminds me of some of the recent eBay "Guilds" that were exposed for what they really were....NOT Guilds, just Guild wannabes! :roll:

Joe

 

[JerryR]

I am sure its probably a counterfit but, I will take it a violin maker I know a few towns over just to see what he thinks. I bought it mainly to have another violin besides the one I am trying to learn to play and the one I am building ! Besides I figured a counterfit of a violin of that quality would still have to be a pretty fine fiddle

It reminds me of the time my dad bought a Stradivarius. The label was printed in English, but he wouldn't entertain the notion that it might have been a fake.

Not even when it said, 'Genuine Stradivarius, made in Taiwan, 1964' :?: :mrgreen:

 

[bluesypicky]

Jerry: I see you've had close contact with the French!!! :lol:

They're right next door to us - centuries of war and conflict :evil:

Ah... dirty distant memories....
But now, after we both realized trying and taking over the world wasn't necessarily worth it, we came to love each other didn't we? :wink: Just like our ex-colonies did.... :shock:

 

[adorshki]

Jerry: I see you've had close contact with the French!!! :lol:

They're right next door to us - centuries of war and conflict :evil:

Ah... dirty distant memories....
But now, after we both realized trying and taking over the world wasn't necessarily worth it, we came to love each other didn't we? :wink: Just like our ex-colonies did.... :shock:

Misery loves company? And let's not forget about our neighbors to the south either.... :lol: