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I hope it’s chocolate!
 

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That's too funny.

My wife could slap a 110 pound German Shepherd around until his ears rattled, but put a quarter ounce mouse in the room and she'd be standing on the table. :LOL:
In all seriousness, that sexist stereotype is a really weird one to me. I really wonder what the origin of it is. It's been around my whole life.

Is it really true for your wife, Rick? For me, I've never known what (if anything) is the basis for that. I guess, in my life, most of the women I've known had no more fear of mice than any man. I mean, I've never seen a woman react any differently to a mouse than a man.

By the way, I'm not trying to make an issue out of this... I'm just really curious what the origin of it is/was.
 

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In all seriousness, that sexist stereotype is a really weird one to me. I really wonder what the origin of it is. It's been around my whole life.

Is it really true for your wife, Rick? For me, I've never known what (if anything) is the basis for that. I guess, in my life, most of the women I've known had no more fear of mice than any man. I mean, I've never seen a woman react any differently to a mouse than a man.

By the way, I'm not trying to make an issue out of this... I'm just really curious what the origin of it is/was.

My wife hates mice - but so do I! But you have answered your own question - it's a sexist stereotype.

However, here's an interesting article. Warning - disturbing photo included (at least for me!).

 

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I can't read that linked page, @walrus . Nothing but ads and I didn't see any details to answer the question before I got accosted with too much noise to actually read it.

All I saw was that men seemed to create more agitation in mice than women. How does that play into the equation here?
 

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In all seriousness, that sexist stereotype is a really weird one to me. I really wonder what the origin of it is. It's been around my whole life.

Is it really true for your wife, Rick? For me, I've never known what (if anything) is the basis for that. I guess, in my life, most of the women I've known had no more fear of mice than any man. I mean, I've never seen a woman react any differently to a mouse than a man.

By the way, I'm not trying to make an issue out of this... I'm just really curious what the origin of it is/was.

It honestly is true, although the "standing on the table" is a slight exaggeration. She'd only go chair high. It was a quirk none of us really understand, but it led to some humorous family get-together s. She was pretty way the same when my daughter came in with a pair of ferrets.

She also considered any canine under 50 pounds a "rat dog", at least until the pug moved in.
 

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I once had the opportunity to solo backpack and camp at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. The National Park Service sent me a video that I had to watch before they would issue my permit. It documented all of the ways people die in there.

On my way down, and my way back up, I encountered a number of women in high heels on the trail, carrying purses but no water, in early August. Darwin Award finalists.
 

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I can't read that linked page, @walrus . Nothing but ads and I didn't see any details to answer the question before I got accosted with too much noise to actually read it.

All I saw was that men seemed to create more agitation in mice than women. How does that play into the equation here?

Huh. Opens for me.

Here's the photo:

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Here's the gist of the article:

There may now be clear scientific evidence why women may appear more scared of mice than men are.

The rodents become more agitated when they smell a man nearby, but the presence of a woman had no noticeable effect on them, according to a study by McGill University in Montreal.

In research published in the online journal Nature Methods, the scientists said that the presence of male experimenters produced a stress response in mice and rats equivalent to that caused by restraining the rodents for 15 minutes in a tube or forcing them to swim for three minutes.

The findings, in the report Nature Methods, may have implications for laboratories that use mice in research.

Scientists believe that the animals’ fear is triggered by chemical signals from pheromones that all humans and animals produce.
 

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OK, that's what I saw, but how does that have anything to do with how women respond to mice?


And, I loved that photo by the way! :)
 

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Summary - If the mouse is not "agitated" and alarmed by the smell of a woman, he's more likely to not run way, and get closer to a woman.

Hence, it makes it more likely the woman gets upset - the mouse isn't scared of her. If a mouse came right up to me and started nibbling on my shoe, I would jump on the table, too!

YMMV.
 

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Summary - If the mouse is not "agitated" and alarmed by the smell of a woman, he's more likely to not run way, and get closer to a woman.

Hence, it makes it more likely the woman gets upset - the mouse isn't scared of her. If a mouse came right up to me and started nibbling on my shoe, I would jump on the table, too!

YMMV.
"3 BLIND MICE LOSE TAILS TO CRAZED FARMER'S WIFE WITH BUTCHER KNIFE-story on pg. 3 reader discretion advised"
 
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