Saddle for New F412

[VtGuildGeek]

Hello Guild Folks -

I purchased a new F412 about a year ago. Without going in to the long story of "why" - I need a new saddle for this beast. The store that I purchased this from has had no luck getting a replacement - we keep getting blanks sent to us. I have not found a place on-line that has a premade Guild F412 saddle.. I have seen plenty for the "M" company, and the "T" company, but nothing for Guild..

Is there something I am missing - or do I have to add "Saddle Maker" to my resume..?..

Thanks - Mike

 

[capnjuan]

Hi Mike and welcome; wait awhile, we have a member who can probably help you. Whatever you do, don't put an M bridge on it or, at least don't do it and tell us about it ... your posting privileges will be cancelled. Just kidding .... sort of.

Wait a bit, help will be on its way. cj

 

[FNG]

http://www.guitarsaddles.com

Send the saddle to Bob, he'll make you a new one in about a day, and ship it back.

 

[chazmo]

Mike,

By the way, I haven't figured out what material the saddle that comes from the factory of our late-model F412/F512s is. Is yours a compensated saddle?

 

[VtGuildGeek]

WOW..!!..
Thanks for the GREAT response on this..!!..

I don't know if my saddle is good for duplicating..

"they" had a manager - instead of the guitar tech - swap out the D-TAR system in this guitar (the original one had issues). He somehow managed to chip the top of the saddle, as it had notches under some of the strings.. I blamed these notches for excessive wear on the string - they would break within a few hours of replacing - sometimes sooner.

(I am replacing with the spec'd Guild strings)

In my "wisdom" I sanded out the notches (seemed like a really good idea at the time) and that has minimized the string breaking. However, using an old whet stone and a hand vice to grind these notches out did not keep the same curvature on the top of the saddle.

So - I am guessing that this saddle is of limited use for duplicating..
PLEASE - correct me if I am wrong..

This is a b-string compensated saddle..

 

[chazmo]

So, Mike, here's the deal... Some time in 2006, the Tacoma, WA factory started using a new bridge/saddle on the F412/F512. You (and I) have the new version, which is B compensated. Mine is also "wave" style where the front edge of the saddle compensates forward as the strings get higher until the B string, when it's compensated back. I don't know if anyone has accurate specs on this thing for duplication (and yours, as you say, is probably not good to use).

I don't know if anyone is going to get any response from Guild/Fender for repair items for a while... So, I'm wondering how I can help. I assume you want to replace your saddle with an equivalent one. I could try to get mine duplicated locally for you and then send you one. You're in VT?

 

[VtGuildGeek]

Dude -

That would be GREAT..!!..
Let me get the vernier caliper out tonight - to get a set of basic measurements of my saddle - just to be sure it is close to yours... That is, unless you are already certain that it is..

Yes, I am in Essex, Vermont - a town on the outskirts of Burlington.

 

[Mingus]

Essex? I've got family in Essex Junction. . .I assume that's nearby?

 

[chazmo]

OK, we'll work it out. I'm going to talk to my luthier about some "least downtime" way for me to get this done for ya.

I'm sending you a PM with my particulars... Best wishes. -- Chaz

 

[VtGuildGeek]

Howdy Mingus2112 -

Yep, there's Essex Town and Essex Junction - basically the same place.

I'm in the town - out in the boonies where no one can hear that 1,000 Watt PA. Oh, and it sounds GREAT running the F412 thru it..!!..