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I saw a red Guild JF30 on ebay. I didn't know Guild made a Red one? Did they? :mrgreen:
 

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They made some transparent red F-50s in Corona that were beautiful. We had one go through here.
 

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Yeah, they've been doing them in a few colors for a while now.

This may sound goofy to some of you folks, but I saw Johnny Rzeznik playing a black JF-30 on the video for Slide, and man oh man did I want that guitar. Seemed like he constantly had a Guild with him, usually a black one, in every video off that album (Dizzy Up the Girl), of course on the Black Balloon Video, in the Iris video, etc etc etc, in photoshoots, at interviews, and of course on stage. And during the Gutterflower tour, on which I was fortunate enough to see them, he had a fleet of D55s in addition to various other Guilds that he played the hell out of. And damn did they sound good.

Again, may make me sound like a huge dork, but one of the things that first attracted me to Guilds was his love of them, and I became a fanatic myself. Of course the enduring quality of the guitars is what KEPT me. If he'd been playing 100 Takamines, that wouldn't have done a damn thing for me when I played one and realized they sounded like tin-cans unplugged (sorry, Tak fans!).

And finally, the first Guild I ever saw in person was a green (!!!) D25. 1999, I think it would've been. I can't remember if it was the arched back or not. Anyway, either a DV25 or a D25. It was when I was shopping for my very first guitar, and by God did I want that thing, but it seemed so expensive at the time (and the local store was GOUGING on the thing--$1199!).

Learned on a Martin Backpacker instead. :( (It had its pluses, I guess. Less intimidating, doubles as a cowbell and/or flotation device.)

And I've... always... still... wanted a bright green guitar.

Well! There's a little rant for you, strangers.
 

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That is truly a beautiful instrument... I've never seen anyone do a green guitar like Guild.

Fender did a neat blue guitar once, but it certainly didn't have Guild-quality tone.

Wait, Taylor does green I guess. Seems like most green guitars are relegated to "stage guitars," though. That's a shame.

More things should be green. I want to go see my local bluegrass band play and have the banjo-player be picking on a green banjo.
 

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Funny you mention Rzeznik.

I have a list (and lust) of guitars that he's used. The man had a TON of Guilds of all shapes and sizes that were just amazing. From what I understand, he's retired most of them for studio/home use. Some still get used now and then.

He has/had

About 10 D55s, if not more that he doesn't use publicly
S7CE Peregrine Custom Shop (Black)
One or two JF-30 (Black)
Songbird (Black, used in Black Balloon Video)
Several D50CEs (I believe thats what these are, but havent looked into it very much)
One F65CE (Black)

There are some more that I cant think of immediately. Just thought I'd share that.
 

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jazzmang said:
Funny you mention Rzeznik.

I have a list (and lust) of guitars that he's used. The man had a TON of Guilds of all shapes and sizes that were just amazing. From what I understand, he's retired most of them for studio/home use. Some still get used now and then.

He has/had

About 10 D55s, if not more that he doesn't use publicly
S7CE Peregrine Custom Shop (Black)
One or two JF-30 (Black)
Songbird (Black, used in Black Balloon Video)
Several D50CEs (I believe thats what these are, but havent looked into it very much)
One F65CE (Black)

There are some more that I cant think of immediately. Just thought I'd share that.

Wow, that's awesome!! Ha, I had no idea he had so many D55s!

Yeah, he did retire them all. He just used Taylors live now. I think Taylor foots the bill on them, though, and he was not very pleased that a few of his Guilds got damaged during a particularly rainy concert in Buffalo.

I've also seen his touring guitarist use a particular awesome-looking Guild. At one point I knew the designation. It's essentially a D55 but with a satin finish, if that rings any bells. And it's got a different rosette. I thought they were so cool! Browsed a few on eBay at one point. But obviously since I'm trying to sell my D55, I have no room for more and need the money from what I do have. But yeah, whatever those unique, satin-finished, rosewood/spruce ones were... they were very cool.

So that's a Songbird in the Black Balloon video. I wondered what that was.

Oh, this is getting long, but have you ever read the interview he did with Guild Gallery magazine? I have a copy of it and just read it again last night. :) It's from 1999 I think.
 

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I don't think I've gotten a chance to read that mag! You know where I could read it?

BTW, he does use Taylors but he is not endorsed (nor has he ever accepted comp guitars, per one of his interviews). He buys them all!

I don't know what the touring guitarist uses. Is it the touring guy from the LLI tour or from Gutterflower?
 

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jazzmang said:
I don't think I've gotten a chance to read that mag! You know where I could read it?

BTW, he does use Taylors but he is not endorsed (nor has he ever accepted comp guitars, per one of his interviews). He buys them all!

I don't know what the touring guitarist uses. Is it the touring guy from the LLI tour or from Gutterflower?

That's the one!

Wow, I guess I just assumed Taylor was paying for all those. If I were Taylor, I'd be pretty fricking excited. But then again, I'm Goo Goo obsessed. (I've always thought he should try Composite Acoustics' guitars with all the goofy tunings he uses, plus they're really tough, great for touring, and since Iris is tuned BDDDDD, I've always thought it would sound damn cool on a Composite Acoustics baritone guitar.)

Maybe Warner Bros. Records buys the touring guitars.

Sorry, I didn't explain that well at all. The touring guitarist in question was the fellow who was with them during the Gutterflower tour. I want to call him Greg Suran, but that may be a different touring musician entirely (!). In the Live In Alaska DVD (sorry, getting pretty obscure now), Greg (I'll call him that) plays the Guild in question (which I want to call like a DV5 or something, but it's fancier than it sounds). I also saw him playing it on a live acoustic version of Flattop that apparently was done for Michael Moore's something or other. In fact, I think I have the YouTube video. Hang on and I'll find that.

Also, Johnny plays a Gibson SJ-200 in that video, though you wouldn't really be able to tell by the plugged-in tone those things generate (just sounds like a piezo rubberband guitar to me, shame... SJ-200s are awesome, always wanted one). Greg plays (maybe the same? Johnny's?) an SJ-200 on the Alaska DVD as well.

There, that's a lot of Goo Goo yack for you. Sorry about that, man! Now let me find that YouTube vid. And maybe you can tell me if you think they're playing it in D standard. Doesn't sound like they're tuned to E standard like the album electric version or any live electric version I've heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM33vE9XaBE

Thought about embedding it here, but that would be kinda assy of me. :) We're probably the only ones who care. haha.

edit--nope, definitely not E standard... don't think it's D standard either tho, from the way he's fingering chords.
 

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Jesse_Dylan said:
jazzmang said:
I don't think I've gotten a chance to read that mag! You know where I could read it?

BTW, he does use Taylors but he is not endorsed (nor has he ever accepted comp guitars, per one of his interviews). He buys them all!

I don't know what the touring guitarist uses. Is it the touring guy from the LLI tour or from Gutterflower?

That's the one!

Wow, I guess I just assumed Taylor was paying for all those. If I were Taylor, I'd be pretty fricking excited. But then again, I'm Goo Goo obsessed. (I've always thought he should try Composite Acoustics' guitars with all the goofy tunings he uses, plus they're really tough, great for touring, and since Iris is tuned BDDDDD, I've always thought it would sound damn cool on a Composite Acoustics baritone guitar.)

Maybe Warner Bros. Records buys the touring guitars.

Sorry, I didn't explain that well at all. The touring guitarist in question was the fellow who was with them during the Gutterflower tour. I want to call him Greg Suran, but that may be a different touring musician entirely (!). In the Live In Alaska DVD (sorry, getting pretty obscure now), Greg (I'll call him that) plays the Guild in question (which I want to call like a DV5 or something, but it's fancier than it sounds). I also saw him playing it on a live acoustic version of Flattop that apparently was done for Michael Moore's something or other. In fact, I think I have the YouTube video. Hang on and I'll find that.

Also, Johnny plays a Gibson SJ-200 in that video, though you wouldn't really be able to tell by the plugged-in tone those things generate (just sounds like a piezo rubberband guitar to me, shame... SJ-200s are awesome, always wanted one). Greg plays (maybe the same? Johnny's?) an SJ-200 on the Alaska DVD as well.

There, that's a lot of Goo Goo yack for you. Sorry about that, man! Now let me find that YouTube vid. And maybe you can tell me if you think they're playing it in D standard. Doesn't sound like they're tuned to E standard like the album electric version or any live electric version I've heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM33vE9XaBE

Thought about embedding it here, but that would be kinda assy of me. :) We're probably the only ones who care. haha.

edit--nope, definitely not E standard... don't think it's D standard either tho, from the way he's fingering chords.

Welcome to LTG Jesse. Rzeznik is one of my faves. I usually keep at least one acoustic in "Rzeznik tuning". Seen the Goo Goo Dolls a few times in concert, last was when they toured with Counting Crows. Great stuff. Crushed me when he switched to the Taylor camp. That Live in Alaska DVD (Music in High Places Series) is a must see for any Rzeznik or Guild fan, ALOT of really cool Guild content. As for green guitar lovers.......we might be in the minority but there are a few around these parts. Coastie has a green F65, Hammer has a green S-100, and there may be a few others. Then there is my green Blues 90:

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Again...welcome to LTG!
 

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Hey, thanks Dan!

Yeah, I was sad when he switched to Taylor, too. :( I think I said to myself, "Well, he must not like the Corona Guilds as much." And now the factory is in Tacoma, of course.

The Taylors DO sound good (a little clangy and harsh sounding), but it's just due to whatever pickups are in them. I mean, I would put a Guild up against a Taylor any day.

I think part of the reason he switched is because, as was said above, he wanted to retire all his Guilds (all Westerly models, I believe), and maybe he figured he had enough of them already. Didn't want another fleet of Guilds. :)

I'd love to have one of his old Guilds someday. Fantasizing.

Anyway.

Love your green Guild! I think they're way cooler than Les Pauls. :)

My ultimate electric would be something semi-dorky and weird. Maybe a green Telecaster or something even stranger, like a green Gibson Melody Maker or Les Paul Jr. I like the Stratocaster sound, but they're so cliche! My tastes in electrics haven't developed enough to say, though; all I've ever owned is a DeArmond M70 (copy of a Guild Bluesbird).
 

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Welcome to LTG Jesse. The Guild plant is now in New Hartford, Connecticut. First NH Guild rolled out around the first of the year...
 

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Jesse_Dylan said:
Hey, thanks Dan!

Yeah, I was sad when he switched to Taylor, too. :( I think I said to myself, "Well, he must not like the Corona Guilds as much." And now the factory is in Tacoma, of course

Actually.....Guild moved again. They are now in New Hartford Ct. If you use the search function here on LTG you will find alot of info on the move and new Ct Guilds.
 

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Whoa, thanks guys, I'll check that out! Tacoma did not work for them? :s I'm very curious now. I'll try a search.
 

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Hi Jesse,

It was a purely financial decision, as far as I can tell. Tacoma did great work with Guild (and their own brand, of course), but I think FMIC was flush with production capability when they acquired the Kaman group (Ovation, Hamer, etc.) in 2007 (I think) and they ended up carving up a home for Guild in the Kaman factory in New Hartford. One of our members got a factory tour and posted a video somewhere... Anyway, I'm hoping to set up (or at least attend) an LTG tour one of these days.

Tacoma's stewardship of Guild was really excellent (if you ask most of us who've played 'em), but I think FMIC saw some economies of scale in moving production to New Hartford. Production is just ramping up there; first guitars came out right at the beginning of 2009 (D-55 seen at NAMM).

Tacoma got about 3.5 - 4 years of Guild acoustic production after that moved up from Corona in 2005 (FMIC bought Tacoma in 2004, I think).
 

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Jesse_Dylan said:
Hey, thanks Dan!


The Taylors DO sound good (a little clangy and harsh sounding), but it's just due to whatever pickups are in them. I mean, I would put a Guild up against a Taylor any day.

I think part of the reason he switched is because, as was said above, he wanted to retire all his Guilds (all Westerly models, I believe), and maybe he figured he had enough of them already. Didn't want another fleet of Guilds. :)
He complained about the plugged in sound of the Guild a few times, saying that generally, piezo pickups sound terrible (which I agree with). I think the only thing that swayed him to Taylors (that he's said at least) is the Expression System, which is versatile, doesn't feed back easily, and still keeps the guitar sounding like wood.

I just picked up a Taylor 414ce and while I enjoy playing my Guilds much more, the plugged up sound of the Taylor kills the Guilds. Unplugged, its a different story, but there you have it. Recent photos of his studio showed several Guilds, so I'm hoping they found their new place there. :)

EDIT: None of my Guilds have the D-TAR system, so I can't compare it to that. I've only got the Fishman/Guild Blenders to compare to.
 

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Very interesting... I wonder how the D-tar sounds? I'm interested in the Expression system as well. I do think they sound good (my only experience being Goo Goo Dolls live stuff), though a little harsh and metallic. Piezo, on the other hand, is not harsh at all but sounds kind of like nylon or something. :)

A lot of carbon fiber guitars sound really good plugged in. Of course, it all depends upon the electronics.

Yeah, he's got a ton of Guilds in his studio. Got a ton of everything in there period. He uses an SJ-200 a lot in the studio, but I've only seen him play one live once. Lots of the Guilds are probably in storage in "The Ark," though, in LA, where they keep a lot of their stuff.

This is the last place I expected to find other Goobers, but it does make sense, Johnny being a Guild lover and all.
 

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Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9lqd9J ... re=related
Watch it in HD

The acoustic sound at the beginning is classic expression system tone. Not shrill, but I liken it to a very rubbery, bubblegum sound. Sounds interesting. Piezos tend to sound more like BBs and pellets dropping in a pie tin (especially the bad ones like on my beater Washburn acoustic).

Anyway, I agree it is nice to find a fellow GGD fan in these parts. They're what drew me to Guilds in the first place, and I'm thankful for that!
 
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