Rattlesnake season. Lookout.

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The way the blend in is canny.

With the coral snake type, they can roll over and bite, a typical snake bite scenario, stepping on one.

Crotalidae are not anywhere as likely to or simply unable to bite like that, not that you'd want to find.

Here's a bit of odd rattlesnake lore.

The Eastern Diamondback featured on the Gadsden Don't Tread on Me flag can be up to a 10lb 8' long snake with 1.5" fangs, though typically less than 6', it's still the biggest venomous snake in North America, scary as all get out. This is an apex predator, a very important role, if they make it to adulthood. I'm confused as to the flag's use of the snake since it was routinely and ruthlessly hunted and killed - and eaten - in organized drives throughout the last few centuries, maybe still today, the flag itself from 1775.

I guess the flag basically says don't step on snakes, it's very good as a PSA, or is it standing up for the snake's right not to be stepped on as if we we were empathizing with snakes as victims of oppression because we oppress them?

Choose your favorite!

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“a 10lb 8’ long snake with 1 1/2” long fangs.”
That right there is scary as hell! I’ll probably be having nightmares about it tonight. 😲
 

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You second explanation is what was handed down to me by my father (born 1898) and always had an old guitar around to thump on at get togethers on weekend country dances.
Yep, "keeps them mice and rats away."
I don’t think I ever heard you mention that your father played guitar. That’s pretty cool. He was born in 1898… he must have seen a lot of changes take place during his lifetime.
 

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I don’t think I ever heard you mention that your father played guitar. That’s pretty cool. He was born in 1898… he must have seen a lot of changes take place during his lifetime.
I was my mother's and his 6th child. He was 51 and mother was 41 when I was born. I have a nephew older than me. I am sure they thought, "we need one more child to round out this family." Like many here, I had wonderful parents. Amazingly, I made it and don't remember either parent worrying about my ego.
Yes, he loved music. We always had a guitar, fiddle, and piano. Wish I still had the Vega archtop from the 50s.
 

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“a 10lb 8’ long snake with 1 1/2” long fangs.”
That right there is scary as hell! I’ll probably be having nightmares about it tonight. 😲
Honestly Bill, I'll wake up thinking its a freaking BOA CONSTRICTOR and it's just my hand caught in the pillow case.... DAMN YOU LTG!!! :ROFLMAO::LOL::eek:
 

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That picture is of a Sonoran Gopher Snake. Non venomous. Actually very beneficial to control harmful animals!
This is the first post on LTG that made me think about abandoning the forum. In my opinion a very ignorant, uneducated post. That is coming from my biology and my humanity. I have spent countless years successfully educating people about snakes and other wildlife.....And then see this!
 

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I am currently in the hospital here in Tucson. This is normally the time of the year I am most active with Rattlesnakes and other species.
LTG is probably my favorite forum of all time. The last several months has watched me get pretty messed up and then go completely deaf. I still react with excitement to a Guild for sale.....even though I cannot play any longer. But, I regress...
 

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We were not allowed to kill snakes in the barn or corncrib - mice, rat, and squirrel control. Snakes don't eat your corn or chew on your mule harness.
But the creek, all snakes were target practice for a developing right arm.
 

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That picture is of a Sonoran Gopher Snake. Non venomous. Actually very beneficial to control harmful animals!
This is the first post on LTG that made me think about abandoning the forum. In my opinion a very ignorant, uneducated post. That is coming from my biology and my humanity. I have spent countless years successfully educating people about snakes and other wildlife.....And then see this!
To be clear you are saying that the snake in the post below is misidentified as a rattler, correct?

 

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To be clear you are saying that the snake in the post below is misidentified as a rattler, correct?
yes, there is no rattle. I have no idea if the "gopher" snake posed a threat or not to humans. But it was rather large. On same walk, I saw another gopher snake and a rattle snake vying for same gopher hole.
 

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I am currently in the hospital here in Tucson. This is normally the time of the year I am most active with Rattlesnakes and other species.
LTG is probably my favorite forum of all time. The last several months has watched me get pretty messed up and then go completely deaf. I still react with excitement to a Guild for sale.....even though I cannot play any longer. But, I regress...
So sorry to read this.

Is there any hope of regaining your hearing?
 

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I was my mother's and his 6th child. He was 51 and mother was 41 when I was born. I have a nephew older than me. I am sure they thought, "we need one more child to round out this family." Like many here, I had wonderful parents. Amazingly, I made it and don't remember either parent worrying about my ego.
Yes, he loved music. We always had a guitar, fiddle, and piano. Wish I still had the Vega archtop from the 50s.
I was wondering if you still had your father's guitar. That would be quite a family heirloom! My father was born in 1915. He loved to play the piano... mostly jazz and American show tunes. We always had a piano in the house, as well. At Christmas time, when the extended family would gather, he would play the piano while we sang Christmas carols. Great memories! He also enjoyed playing ragtime and Harlem stride piano when he was really feeling it! My older brother has the family piano now, but no one in his family plays.
 
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I am currently in the hospital here in Tucson. This is normally the time of the year I am most active with Rattlesnakes and other species.
LTG is probably my favorite forum of all time. The last several months has watched me get pretty messed up and then go completely deaf. I still react with excitement to a Guild for sale.....even though I cannot play any longer. But, I regress...
Sorry to hear that you are in the hospital, cupric. I hope that you are on the mend, and can return home soon!
 

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I am currently in the hospital here in Tucson. This is normally the time of the year I am most active with Rattlesnakes and other species.
LTG is probably my favorite forum of all time. The last several months has watched me get pretty messed up and then go completely deaf. I still react with excitement to a Guild for sale.....even though I cannot play any longer. But, I regress...
Well, this is terrible news!! Hospitals can be very necessary, but rarely fun and I hope you can return home soon. Heal well, my friend!! (y)(y)
 

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cupric - hope you get to feeling better with both hearing and the ability to get out & about.
I cannot even count the number of rattlesnakes I have come across in the wild between Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona. Never thought there was a need to destroy the snake to spare myself or others I was with. I think their bad rap comes from most people being unfamiliar and therefore afraid. I even had one stop by for a drink from a tiny spring in the Superstition Mountains once while I was filling a water bottle. The snake was wary but not aggressive. I continued (slowly) to fill the bottle while the snake drank from a small pool then headed back into the bushes. I completed filling the water bottle we had and left... with an assurance I was not coming back after dark!
 
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