NGD-DV 62

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I went to the Westerly website that was posted in my OP and there is not even a dv-62 shown. Obviously they were made. Any sources that show detailed info on this model?
Beesley's book "Guitar History vol 5 Guild Guitars" gives the basic specs and dates. IIRC, the DV-62 was originally the high gloss version of the DV-52, which was originally released in a satin finish. The DV-62 also had herringbone purfling (the 52 did not have herringbone). Other than that, it has much the same specs as the DV-52.

Later, the DV-52 later became available in an high gloss finish, and then with an abalone rosette (I think the 62 was discontinued before introduction of the abalone rosettes).
 

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Beesley's book "Guitar History vol 5 Guild Guitars" gives the basic specs and dates. IIRC, the DV-62 was originally the high gloss version of the DV-52, which was originally released in a satin finish. The DV-62 also had herringbone purfling (the 52 did not have herringbone). Other than that, it has much the same specs as the DV-52.

Later, the DV-52 later became available in an high gloss finish, and then with an abalone rosette (I think the 62 was discontinued before introduction of the abalone rosettes).
Much appreciated and very informative!
 

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I just have a bad scan of the January 1994 pricelist but all should be readable anyway. The DV52 also showed a herringbone rosette but no herringbone purfling as already mentioned in that pricelist:

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Tom, I love your avatar! It speaks to your background. I had a Welsh pony and a Shetland pony when I was a kid. The Welsh was pretty much a full size horse. I used to ride the Shetland bareback, but the Welsh required a saddle.
 

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I just have a bad scan of the January 1994 pricelist but all should be readable anyway. The DV52 also showed a herringbone rosette but no herringbone purfling as already mentioned in that pricelist:

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Ralf
It's interesting that the earlier dv-52's had a herringbone bone rosette as opposed to the later which had the abalone. The dv-62 had a high gloss finish whereas the dv-52 was probably a satin lacquer.
 

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The dv-62 had a high gloss finish whereas the dv-52 was probably a satin lacquer.
The 52 started out as satin finish, but high gloss became an option after a couple years... I don't know which year.
 

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Actually in the 1992 product sheets both versions were available already:

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Jan 1993 pricelist:

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April 1993 pricelist:

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Only satin in the Jan 1994 list:

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One year later in Jan 1995 again both, but no DV-62 anymore:

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Ralf
 
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Actually in the 1992 product sheets both versions were available already:

1641857661471.png

Jan 1993 pricelist:

1641857834068.png

April 1993 pricelist:

1641857748034.png

Only satin in the Jan 1994 list:

1641857399546.png

One year later in Jan 1995 again both, but no DV-62 anymore:

1641857461924.png and 1641857497947.png

Ralf
Curious if these all came with bone bridge pins?
 

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Interesting that the price of new DV52s then is about what they go for used now. Given inflation, the typical current used prices are bargains. But we knew that already!
I agree 1000%. I've had 2, just wish I liked the sound of RW.
 

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What's wrong with a joyful Tom?

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Well, I guess nothing. And I'm generally a happy sort. But that huge, smiling face was getting on my nerves. So I went back to the horse jumping one and now this. This is good for a while. I look content but not so many teeth......
 

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Tom, I love your avatar! It speaks to your background. I had a Welsh pony and a Shetland pony when I was a kid. The Welsh was pretty much a full size horse. I used to ride the Shetland bareback, but the Welsh required a saddle.
Funny because Welsh Pony's are a pony breed but they can come fairly large. Usually it's the Shetlands that should have a saddle, and an anvil, and a chain, and a seatbelt, and full medical coverage. Ask @twocorgis!! It's from his FB post. LOL!!
 

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Funny because Welsh Pony's are a pony breed but they can come fairly large. Usually it's the Shetlands that should have a saddle, and an anvil, and a chain, and a seatbelt, and full medical coverage. Ask @twocorgis!! It's from his FB post. LOL!!
Ain't that the truth!

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That's more than a neck reset. The neck block has shifted on that and the neck and block are being pulled into the sound hole. I'm pretty sure the top has to come off to properly repair this damage. Those are super nice guitars. I like the herringbone rosette! Good luck, Richard!! (y)

If done carefully, this can be done without removing the top. It is not a trivial repair, but it is not something that would absolutely require the top be removed. In fact, it is the "popsicle" brace glue joint and/or the upper transverse brace glue joint that have been compromised (or both are compromised). This is the major reason that the popsicle brace is there, to prevent this problem, but it can't do its job if the glue joint fails. I'm going to assume the popsicle brace has failed.

The first thing to do is to remove the popsicle brace entirely, and loosen the upper transverse brace glue joint in the area of the crack , and then get all of the old glue off (from the lower side of the guitar top) from the areas the popsicle brace was glued. Then, very carefully, a screw jack must be put inside, running from the tail block to the "bad" side of the neck block, to push the side of neck block slowly forward until the sound hole is round again. Add a couple of cleats to secure the sound hole crack. Then add back the popsicle brace, add glue back the upper transverse brace, making sure to add enough glue so that there are no voids. Remember, the popsicle brace has a wide, long glue joint. After all of the cleat and brace glue joints are dry, remove the screw jack. This obviously must be done with the strings off, and also, it is highly advisable to support the "good side" (i.e. the side of the neck block that hasn't moved) so that the pressure from the screw jack is not trying to move the entire neck block, just the side that has moved, as well as the tail block.

It is almost a guarantee that this was due to the guitar being overheated. Could have been in a car, could have been somewhere else, but comprimised glue joints only really have one cause, and that is heat. Because of that, it would be a good idea to inspect EVERY glue joint in the guitar for compromise because if the upper transverse brace glue joint is compromised, so could any other glue joint, and if you are in there fixing that, might as well get everything else fixed. The only other thing I can think of is that there was an impact to the top of the guitar, probably on the fingerboard extension that broke/popped the upper transverse and popsicle braces loose. There is no sign of that kind of impact, but the fingerboard extension is black, so it would be hard to see.
 
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