New NS jazzbox model

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I need to hear one. Then, if I ever see one, I would like to give it a play. I'll never have a real AA guitar and to be honest, my playing skills don't warrant one. But, I'll bet my budget to skill algorithm could work for this guitar. But, if I had to replace too much hardware to make it good, it still wouldn't be worth it.

I need see a video review.
 

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Sweetwater gots a similar model without that headstock name of Savoy for a couple a hundy less.
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I got lucky a couple of years ago and found a mint Benedetto AA for $4,500. I stupidly sold it. o_O
:oops: I too have done such. Oh, wait! probably every person on this forum has done such. My horror story involved a 1954 Les Paul Jr. I still can't talk about it :rolleyes:
 
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Sweetwater gots a similar model without that headstock name of Savoy for a couple a hundy less.
The Savoy has the DeArmond 1000 Rhythm Chief pickup vs. the limited Vanguard has the DeArmond 1100 Rhythm Chief. The 1100 seems to be the "better" pickup for Jazz. And obviously Gold hardware on the Vanguard vs. chrom on the Savoy.

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Yup. That model has been around for about 10 years now.
Yes indeed. Introduced in 2013, I purchased this early 2014 A-150b new, just prior to Fender’s exit. Tight & clean construction, super comfy neck, and great tones for what I play (& given the solid spruce top, both on the acoustic & electric side of the equation). I also prefer the original single knob on top of the pickguard, which later was changed to two semi-hidden wheels on the side.

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The Savoy has the DeArmond 1000 Rhythm Chief pickup vs. the limited Vanguard has the DeArmond 1100 Rhythm Chief. The 1100 seems to be the "better" pickup for Jazz. And obviously Gold hardware on the Vanguard vs. chrom on the Savoy.

Ralf
Oh yeah, just noticed the gold vs. chrome hardware. I wonder if DeArmond 1100 Rhythm Chief pickup is available aftermarket? It looks like it would fit pretty easily on the Savoy.
 

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I wonder if DeArmond 1100 Rhythm Chief pickup is available aftermarket? It looks like it would fit pretty easily on the Savoy.
Yes, in Europe almost any known store has them available. I'm sure same for the US.
Here are just two examples:


Some discussion:

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I was initially concerned about not having adjustable pole screws, but I got lucky & the 1000 on my Savoy is very nicely balanced. Also of note is that the solid top is X-braced. I run acoustic strings, and get a tone very reminiscent to an old 1930s Gibson-made Wards I owned way back when. The top on that one was carved & X-braced, and I loved the acoustic tone. So when the Savoy appeared, my curiosity was peaked. The guitar is limited in it’s applications, but for me, it’s a great two trick pony.
 

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I got lucky a couple of years ago and found a mint Benedetto AA for $4,500. I stupidly sold it. o_O
Actually, and not surprisingly, my '93 AA out acoustically peforms my '68 A-150, but that's what it should be as the AA is fully carved, whereas the A-150's top is the only side carved. Nevertheless, there's a "mojo" sound coming out of my '68 A-150 with the same strings as my '93 AA is funky and not so bright as the AA. Different sounds for different folks.
 

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The A-150 Vanguard is now on Guild's website.

 

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The misaligned scratch plate is such a simple fix that I'd have to classify that right there as downright carelessness.

That, or just not givin' an excrement.
 

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The basics of any guitar are 1) that it is physically playable (i.e. that it is not a cheese or hard boiled egg slicer posing as a guitar), 2) that it plays in tune (with itself), and 3) it stays in tune. Beyond this it is largely what you do with it.

Is the once budget T-50 beginner guitar with a cheap Micky Mouse pickup a Jazz guitar? Objectively in comparison to high-end offerings from Guild, Gibson, and boutique luthiers, one would have to say definitely not. But what happens when one finds its way into Ted Greene's hands? Hmmmm... suddenly it is a very credible Jazz guitar. Given my choice of listening to Mr. Greene on a T-50 or a whole lot of other players on expensive high-end Jazz guitars, who would I choose? Mr. Greene.

Is a Telecaster a Jazz guitar? It is if it is in the hands of Mr. Greene or Ed Bickert.

Is a Strat a Jazz guitar? There was a guy with the handle, Doc Bop, at JazzGuitar.be who brought some videos to my attention of a guitarist from L.A. playing exquisite straight Jazz on a Strat. Lovely tone. Sadly I cannot remember the player's name now.

And even if the guitar does not meet the three criteria above ...

There was a Quebecois sessional employed for the summer at a college where I taught. He had gigged in Montreal in Latin Jazz bands. He found a garbage Chinese-made plywood nylon string guitar in a storage closet at the college. It had high action. a misplaced bridge, and worn, notched strings. He evaluated its dis-intonation, mapping it in his head, and he then put the strings strategically out of tune. Suddenly, he is playing Baden Powell tunes on it, bending notes into correct intonation on the fly. In his hands it was a Jazz guitar.

I wouldn't say no to the new Jazz box model if someone offered me one. Whether or not I could transform it into a real Jazz guitar, though, is questionable, but I wouldn't mind trying.
 
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"Sadly I cannot remember the player's name now."

Was it Julian Lage?
I don't think so. I saw the videos so long ago that Lage would have been too young at the time.

But Lage, along with Bill Frisell, is another example of someone turning the Telecaster into a Jazz guitar.
 

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I used to dream of having a Gibson L5. But then one day I woke up and realized I was no Wes Montgomery. I'm not even sure I really measure up to my X-175 :unsure:.
It took a lot of work for Wes Montgomery to become Wes Montgomery. He didn't start out being a good guitarist. No one does.

But even a beginner who's full of passion and the desire to play will benefit from buying a very good guitar. The better the player becomes, the better the guitar becomes.
 
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