New CCR Documentary up on Netflix.

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Yes shows the whole Albert Hall concert. I knew many of their songs but not their history. Like so many bands they self destroyed due to their egos it seems.
 

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I don't know their history, but Badfinger has always been the most extreme example of getting shafted I've known about. I'll hope to watch this documentary and learn more.
 

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They are probably the most notorious example of getting shafted in the music business I've ever heard of. I think it caused a lot of turmoil and infighting...moreso than ego.

Oh...and there are several Guild sightings just in the first 20 min alone. ;)
John Fogerty even wrote a song about it. Originally called "Zanz Kant Danz" on the early releases of "Centerfield", later versions have the name changed to "Vanz Kant Danz" for fear of getting sued. The subject of his ire was Saul Zaentz, who really did screw them.

 
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I don't know their history, but Badfinger has always been the most extreme example of getting shafted I've known about. I'll hope to watch this documentary and learn more.
Yeah, theirs was really bad, but IMHO mostly made notorious by some attributing 2 of the member's suicides to it when something that drastic has to have come from an already dark place.

Regardless, how many times has anyone ever heard of being tied to a 7 record deal in a defunct band, being forced to give up the rights to a major string of #1 hits and platinum records, just to get out of that terrible contract....then later getting sued by the rightsholder of YOUR music for releasing a new song that sounded a little too close to an older song that YOU wrote?? John basically wasn't legally allowed to be ...himself! Crazy!!
 
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A Guild and Ricky fest!!! Some Gibsons thrown in!! Very cool!
Interesting brief references to the times. Same country, same problems-they all think it’ll tear the country apart, too!! Interesting view into the minds of my parents’ generation. Always amazes me that these people interrupted their lives to enlist, and picked their lives back up after.
I like that Jeff Bridges is narrating.
Interesting to learn about the group’s history. Now if the bassist would just get caught on camera with a Guild. So far it’s Pbass, EB3, Rickenbacker.
 
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I started it. Wow!! A Guild and Ricky fest!!! Some Gibsons thrown in!! Very cool!
Interesting brief references to the times. Same country, same problems-they all think it’ll tear the country apart, too!! Interesting view into the minds of my parents’ generation. Always amazes me that these people interrupted their lives to enlist, and picked their lives back up after.
I like that Jeff Bridges is narrating.
Interesting to learn about the group’s history. Digging Doug’s beard and Stache! Now if the bassist would just get caught on camera with a Guild. So far it’s Pbass, EB3, Rickenbacker.
You might only catch it for a second, but John plays a guild early on....on Ed Sullivan. (I forget the model....a smaller body (closer to a Les paul than an ES) single cutaway.
 

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Ah, so this doc just covers their humble beginnings (1959) up to their peak in popularity and chart success, leaving out all the sour sorted details and endless litigation of their eventual demise. I'm glad. It left me feeling very good about CCR. (y)

The origin stories for the documentary I read said it was basically a way to release the Albert Hall footage now that the legal barriers to that had been settled. So it deliberately 'stopped" at a peak. The cynics noted that the documentary was a better way of monetizing the concert footage than just releasing it with minor edits.
 
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The origin stories for the documentary I read said it was basically a way to release the Albert Hall footage now that the legal barriers to that had been settled. So it deliberately 'stopped" at a peak. The cynics noted that the documentary was a better way of monetizing the concert footage than just releasing it with minor edits.
I think it worked really well and had a good flow to it. 👍🏻 The standalone concert footage would have certainly been a big hit to devout CCR fans, but maybe not quite enough to reel in even the casual fan. I can see this presentation winning over the indifferent, if not garnering some new fans.
 

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The bassist’s Pbass had two Fender split coils in the bridge and middle position, and also a Ric toaster in the neck position. Lots of knobs. He could have had some interesting conversations with Casady, Lesh, and the guy from Allman bros.

Never occurred to me before but that band is basically all Fogerty and his rhythm section. I like how the drummer invents groove variations in the song so it’s not the same thing over and over again. They were definitely a very well rehearsed band!
 

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I like how the drummer invents groove variations in the song so it’s not the same thing over and over again. They were definitely a very well rehearsed band!
If it's Doug Clifford he's probably just floundering around. It always drove John nuts that Doug couldn't even play a basic "Shuffle" drum beat. For that matter, John had to teach them all their parts to play live. He wrote everything!
 

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I found it intriguing that he just had a short chord going directly into the amp, no pedal and effects, even though there were some commonly used ones then. Did all the sound just by fiddling with amp controls. And yeah 80% of what he played were simple open cowboy chords. The genius is in the simplicity of the music.
 
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If it's Doug Clifford he's probably just floundering around. It always drove John nuts that Doug couldn't even play a basic "Shuffle" drum beat. For that matter, John had to teach them all their parts to play live. He wrote everything!
Yep. I find it odd that in several of the candid interviews of the other band members, all they do is glorify John. "He's one of the top 2-3 singers of our time. "He's an amazing songwriter and arranger"....yadda yadda. Then come 71-72 the story flips to them demanding equal songwriting and lead vocal contributions among all 4 members. John reminds them who wrote, arranged, played, sang, recorded, and mixed the material that got them from obscurity to international stardom. It falls on deaf ears. John finally says ok, and says he will only contribute 2-3 tunes on the next album, the rest is all theirs, and he will add nothing more than his guitar to the rest. The album tanks and only the single featuring 2 of John's tunes ever sees the charts.

Moral of the story. Stay in your lane and be thankful to even be a supporting member!! :cautious:
 
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