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NAMM 2013: Newark St.™ Collection electric models

"Guild is proud to announce the Newark St. Collection, the return of eight classic Guild electric favorites from the 1950s and ’60s—once again putting the distinctive Guild styling and voice that helped shape popular music into the hands of today’s guitarists.
Newark St. Collection models are handcrafted instruments with authentic Guild electric tone and superior feel. Premium features include authentic Guild body shapes, arch radii and neck profiles; authentically vintage-style pickups and hardware; improved playing action ideal for today’s alternative styles; and more
."

The whole series can be seen here.

Following new models were introduced for 2013:
S-100 Polara™
Starfire™ III w/Guild® Bigsby®
Starfire™ IV
M-75 Aristocrat™
X-175 Manhattan™
X-175B Manhattan™ w/Guild® Bigsby®
A-150 Savoy™
A-150 Savoy™ Blonde (it's actually not a ninth model but just a color option)
Starfire™ Bass


People might ask: "Why the name Newark St. ?"

The Guild Hoboken factory was officially located on 300 Observer Highway from November 1956 till December 1971,
but Newark Street was the street just behind the buildings.

And I guess "Newark Street Collection" sounds better than "Observer Highway Collection"... :)


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(EDIT 2/9: I changed this picture to reflect the correct Guild building, see later input from Hans)

Here's a closer look:

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Now everybody wants to know where and how the Newark St.™ Collection models are made:

Mike Lewis (FMIC project leader for the Newark St.™ Collection) explained to me that Guild purchased original guitars for each model on ebay or from other sources and sent it to their factory in Korea (SPG) with the task to exactly reverse engineer all used materials and construction.
No change in materials and construction was allowed. The task was to recreate the original as good as possible.

SPG in Korea is the factory that is "handcrafting" the Newark St.™ Collection models for Guild.

Another factory in Korea (another FMIC supplier) is responsible for all metal hardware and for the pickups (Boo Heung Precision Machinery, Korea = BHK).

All the new pickups in the Newark Street models (and the American Patriarch models) were copied exactly by BHK from the Guild provided vintage originals.
Again Guild/FMIC told them to not change anything, no change in materials or design was allowed. No change to magnets, wires, windings,... So according to Mike Lewis the pickups are real Guild® pickups but just not manufactured in USA...

A 3rd factory in Korea is responsible for the production of the Guild® Bigsby® B60 Vibrato Tailpiece. (they seem to call it B60 version now).

The most important message I was asked to share:

The Newark St. Collection models are not intended to be re-issues of previous models!
Because they are not 100% exact re-issues and hence can't be called re-issues. They are very close copies but not 100% "copy exactly" copies. (see little differences like different label, different TRC, different fret size, different fingerboard radii, different finish, sometimes different bridges,...).
Guild calls them "The 2013 version of the <insert model>." Similar to what you see with the Fender Strats and Teles. They use a vintage design with upgraded appointments and features to accomodate today's players, and not a collector of '50ies or '60ies guitars. So I was asked to give them a chance, also to come potentially with different color options for some models in future.

One more maybe interesting information: The headstock of some of the used original models had the "lip top" design. For the 2013 Newark St. models the headstock shape was changed. They now have the typical Guild "center-raised" style, however the shape of the rest of the headstock is still like it was on the "lip top" headstocks. The lower part is a bit wider than the top part. So the new headstocks look like they are more curved. Most will not notice, but have a look in Hans' book on page 26, look at the middle headstock there and compare it with the M-80 headstock on page 27 on the right side. You will see what I mean by the wider lower part of the old "lip-top" headstock. So it's a combination of an old and new headstock shape.

Here's a picture how part of that long display wall looked at NAMM:
Note that the background is a picture of one part (the East side?) of the old Neumann Leather building in Hoboken, however that was not the part of the building where Guild was. Hans wrote that Guild occupied the 6th floor (and that building in the picture only has 4 floors) and later moved into the second floor of the building. Hans shows on page 12/13 in his book the building on Observer Hwy from the West. Or see above.

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Those Newark St.™ Collection models were so new that even Kim Keller told me he had just seen them one day before NAMM!
I have to say they seem to have an amazing build quality! They easily could be US build models looking at the build quality of the displayed prototypes.

There was a lot of interest from the public during NAMM, people constantly had them off the wall in their hands and played with them.

It's definitely worth to watch the following video, Mike Lewis gives a good overview about each model of the Newark St. Collection:
(One thing is incorrect, Franz wasn't a European company...)




To be continued with a model by model review...
 
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EDIT 2020:

The 2013 S-100 model as shown below used the Guild mini humbuckers. During 2014 they changed the model to using full size HB-1 humbuckers. During 2016 the S-100 factory was changed from SPG to WMI during CMG's ownership of Guild. You need to look on the back of the guitar to see the difference (besides the serial number): WMI mounts the lid over the pot chamber with 6 screws on the S-100 model vs. previously with 4 screws on the former SPG versions. Also SPG used Grover tuners vs WMI no-name tuners.

Click on the model name for the official specs today:

S-100 Polara™

Back to 2013:
This is a interesting model in my view. Mike said they aquired a 1970 model with mini humbuckers as baseline, obviously they had no phase switch yet for the mini humbuckers. (Even after the HB-1s were introduced the phase switch was initially only option for the S-100.)

I have never seen a S-100 Polara with mini humbuckers, all I saw had already the Guild HB-1 humbuckers. But Hans confirmed that such models do exist.
The only "evidence" I found is from the 1970 (?) brochure, I post it left below. At that time it was still called S-100 Polara (only shortly after it was renamed to S-100 Standard).
You can see the minihumbuckers have only one hight adjustment screw on each side of the pickup.
The right picture is from the 1971 (?) brochure and you see HB-1 humbuckers, where the left side of the pickup has 2 hight/tilt adjustment screws.

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The Newark St.™ S-100 Polara™ features:
- Solid Mahogany body (I believe Mike said it is Sapele, that is how it looks to me)
- Gloss Urethane finish
- Body Depth: 1.5" (38.1 mm)
- Neck Shape: Vintage Soft "U"
- Fret Size: 6105 (.055" Tall x .090" Wide)
- Position Inlays: Aged Pearloid Blocks
- Fingerboard Radius: 12" (305 mm)
- Fretboard: Rosewood
- Neck Material: 1-Piece Mahogany
- Nut Width: 1.650" (42 mm)
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Bridge Pickup: Guild® "Anti-Hum" Dual-Coil
- Neck Pickup: Guild® "Anti-Hum" Dual-Coil
- Hardware Finish: Nickel-Plated
- Bridge: Guild® Adjusto-Matic™
- String Nut: Bone
- Pickguard: Opaque Plexi Pickguard with Guild® Logo
- Guild® Anchored Tailpiece
- Strings: D'Addario® EXL110 Nickel Wound, Medium/Blues-Jazz Rock, (.010-.046 Gauges)

All the following pictures were taken by me at NAMM.

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Impossible to see here, but the Knobs have Volume and Tone written on them and go from 1-9.

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The Serial number and "Handcrafted in Korea" is written on the back of the headstock.
Also note the special tuning machines: Grover® Sta-Tite™, but mounted from 97 series back with 98 series classic round buttons.

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In this video Mike Lewis is talking a bit about the S-100, watch from beginning until 02:15 only.




Official Guild demo video, the player is Rick Heins (Product Specialist, Fender Amplifiers). Unfortunately no clear tone demonstrated.




To be continued with Starfire™ III...
 
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Starfire™ III w/Guild® Bigsby®

The Newark St.™ Starfire™ III w/Guild® Bigsby® features:
- Body Back: Arched Laminated Mahogany
- Body Sides: Laminated Mahogany
- Body Top: Arched Laminated Mahogany (Mike said they use Sapele, as was used in the originals)
- Body Finish: Gloss Urethane
- Body Depth: 1.94" (49 mm)
- Body Length: 20.25" (514 mm)
- Body Width Lower Bout: 16.38" (416 mm)
- Neck Shape: Vintage Soft "U"
- Fret Size: 6105 (.055" Tall x .090" Wide)
- Position Inlays: Pearloid Dot
- Fingerboard Radius: 9.45" (240 mm)
- Fretboard: Rosewood
- Neck Material: 1-Piece Mahogany
- Nut Width: 1.650" (42 mm)
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Bridge Pickup: Guild® "Anti-Hum" Dual-Coil
- Neck Pickup: Guild® "Anti-Hum" Dual-Coil
- Hardware Finish: Nickel Plated; Polished Aluminum
- Bridge: Guild® Adjusto-Matic™ with Rosewood Base
- String Nut: Bone
- Pickguard: Opaque Plexi Pickguard with Guild® Logo
- Tailpiece: Guild® Bigsby® B60 Vibrato Tailpiece
- Strings: D'Addario® EXL115 Nickel Wound, Medium/Blues-Jazz Rock, (.011-.049 Gauges)


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The Knobs have Volume and Tone written on and go from 1-9.

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The Serial number and "Handcrafted in Korea" is written on the back of the headstock.
Also note the special tuning machines: Grover® Sta-Tite™, but mounted from 97 series back with 98 series classic round buttons.

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Cool detail: A version of the "Ghost label" is used for the Newark St.™ Collection models!

The serial number on the label is still slightly different from the serial number on the headstock!
SPG used "KS" (Korea, SPG) as starting letters and the headstock shows "KSG" where G seems to stand for Guild.
The label however only shows the KS at the moment.
I asked Mike Lewis about it and he said those are the little things that still need to be fixed for serial production, that is only the prototype.

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Official Guild demo video of the SF III (played by Shane Nicholas, Marketing Manager Fender Amplifiers) together with a Starfire™ Bass, sounds pretty good to me!




To be continued with the Starfire™ IV...
 
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Starfire™ IV

The Newark St.™ Starfire™ IV features:
- Body Back: Arched Laminated Mahogany (Mike said Sapele was used, as in the original)
- Body Sides: Laminated Mahogany
- Body Top: Arched Laminated Mahogany
- Body Finish: Gloss Urethane
- Body Depth: 1.75" (44.45 mm)
- Body Length: 20.25" (514 mm)
- Body Width Lower Bout: 16.38" (416 mm)
- Neck Shape: Vintage Soft "U"
- Fret Size: 6105 (.055" Tall x .090" Wide)
- Position Inlays: Pearloid Dot
- Fingerboard Radius: 9.45" (240 mm)
- Fretboard: Rosewood
- Neck Material: 3-Piece Mahogany/Maple/Mahogany
- Nut Width: 1.650" (42 mm)
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Bridge Pickup: Guild® "Anti-Hum" Dual-Coil
- Neck Pickup: Guild® "Anti-Hum" Dual-Coil
- Hardware Finish: Nickel-Plated
- Bridge: Guild® Adjusto-Matic™ with Rosewood Base
- String Nut: Bone
- Pickguard: Opaque Plexi Pickguard with Guild® Logo
- Strings: D'Addario® EXL115 Nickel Wound, Medium/Blues-Jazz Rock, (.011-.049 Gauges)

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Note the special tuning machines: Grover® Sta-Tite™, but mounted from 97 series back with 98 series classic round buttons.

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Cool detail: A version of the "Ghost label" is used for the Newark St.™ Collection models!

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The serial number and "Handcrafted in Korea" are printed on the back of the headstock.
The serial number on the label is still slightly different from the serial number on the headstock!
SPG used "KS" (Korea, SPG) as starting letters on the label and the headstock shows "KSG" where G seems to stand for Guild.
I asked Mike Lewis about it and he said those are the little things that still need to be fixed for serial production, that is only the prototype.

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Official Guild demo video, Starfire™ IV played by Mike Lewis together with a Starfire™ Bass (played by Shane Nicholas, Marketing Manager Fender Amplifiers)




To be continued with the M-75 Aristocrat™...
 
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M-75 Aristocrat™

This is the second new M-75 Aristocrat model in the 2013 line-up.
Differences compared to the American Patriarch™ M-75 Aristocrat™:
- Newark St.™ M-75 Aristocrat™ is based on an end of the 50ies model (American Patriarch™ M-75 Aristocrat™ is based on a 1956 model)
- better wood selection for the American Patriarch™ M-75 Aristocrat™
- different finish, Newark St.™ M-75 Aristocrat™ has red in the sunburst, American Patriarch™ M-75 Aristocrat™ has two tone sunburst
- Newark St.™ M-75 Aristocrat™ has the features of the later model (knobs, headstock veneer design, pickguard, bridge,...)

The Newark St.™ M-75 Aristocrat™ features:
- Body Back: Solid Mahogany
- Body Sides: Laminated Mahogany
- Body Top: Arched Laminated Spruce
- Body Finish: Gloss Polyurethane
- Body Depth: 2" (50.8 mm)
- Body Length: 17.25" (438mm)
- Body Width Lower Bout: 13.5" (343mm)
- Neck Shape: Vintage Soft "U"
- Fret Size: 6105 (.055" Tall x .090" Wide)
- Position Inlays: Aged Pearloid Blocks
- Fingerboard Radius: 9.45" (240 mm)
- Fretboard: Rosewood
- Neck Material: 3-Piece Mahogany/Maple/Mahogany
- Nut Width: 1.650" (42 mm)
- Scale Length: 24.5" (622 mm)
- Neck Binding: 1-Ply Ivory White
- Bridge Pickup: Guild® "Frequency Tested" Single-Coil
- Neck Pickup: Guild® "Frequency Tested" Single-Coil
- Hardware Finish: Gold-Plated
- Bridge: Guild® Floating Adjusto-Matic
- String Nut: Bone
- Pickguard: Opaque Plexi Pickguard with Guild® Logo
- Strings: D'Addario® EXL115 Nickel Wound, Medium/Blues-Jazz Rock, (.011-.049 Gauges)


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Note the special gold-plated tuning machines: Grover® Sta-Tite™, but mounted from 97 series back with 98 series classic round buttons.

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The Franz copy pickups are the same as in the American Patriarch™ M-75 Aristocrat™.

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Official Guild demo video, the player is Rick Heins (Product Specialist, Fender Amplifiers).
Unfortunately no clear tone demonstrated.




To be continued with the X-175 Manhattan™...
 
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X-175 Manhattan™

The Newark St.™ X-175 Manhatten™ features:
- Body Back: Arched Laminated Maple
- Body Sides: Laminated Maple
- Body Top: Arched Laminated Spruce
- Body Finish: Gloss Urethane
- Body Depth: 3.125" (7.9 cm)
- Body Length: 21" (53.34 cm)
- Body Width Lower Bout: 17" (43.2 cm)
- Neck Shape: Vintage Soft "U"
- Fret Size: 6105 (.055" Tall x .090" Wide)
- Position Inlays: Aged Pearloid Blocks
- Fingerboard Radius: 9.45" (240 mm)
- Fretboard: Rosewood
- Neck Material: 3-Piece Mahogany/Maple/Mahogany
- Nut Width: 1.650" (42 mm)
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Bridge Pickup: Guild® "Frequency Tested" Single-Coil
- Neck Pickup: Guild® "Frequency Tested" Single-Coil
- Hardware Finish: Nickel-Plated
- Bridge: Compensated Rosewood with Rosewood Base
- String Nut: Bone
- Pickguard: Opaque Plexi Pickguard with Guild® Logo
- Strings: D'Addario® EXL115 Nickel Wound, Medium/Blues-Jazz Rock, (.011-.049 Gauges)

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The Franz pickup copies in the X-175 are the same pickups like in the M-75 Aristocrat™, just the covers are changed.

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The X-175 will be delivered with two bridges (!) Mike Lewis told me, one uncompensated for would G string, a second one compensated.
So a player can change the bridge and strings as he like.

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Clear Amber Volume & Tone knobs, from 1-9:

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The Serial number and "Handcrafted in Korea" is written on the back of the headstock.
Also note the special tuning machines: Grover® Sta-Tite™, but mounted from 97 series back with 98 series classic round buttons.

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Cool detail: A version of the "Ghost label" is used for the Newark St.™ Collection models!

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The serial number on the label is still slightly different from the serial number on the headstock! SPG used "KS" (Korea, SPG) as starting letters and the headstock shows "KSG" where G seems to stand for Guild. The label however only shows the KS at the moment. I asked Mike Lewis about it and he said those are the little things that still need to be fixed for serial production, that is only the prototype.

Official Guild demo video of X-175 Manhatten™, played by Shane Nicholas, Marketing Manager Fender Amplifiers, accompanied by the X-175B Manhatten™, played by Mike Lewis:




The second X-175 model is the X-175B Manhattan™ w/Guild® Bigsby®

The B stands for Blonde.

The Newark St.™ X-175 Manhatten™ w/Guild® Bigsby® has the same features like the X-175 Manhatten™ except:
- Bridge: Guild® Adjusto-Matic™ with Rosewood Base
- Tailpiece: Guild® Bigsby® B60 Vibrato

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Guild Licensed written on the Bigsby.

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Now this was the only label that matched the serial number with the number on the headstock ! :D
SPG uses "KS" (Korea, SPG) as starting letters and the label and headstock both show "KSG" where G seems to stand for Guild.

Official Guild demo video of X-175B Manhatten™, played by Mike Lewis, accompanied by the X-175 Manhatten™, played by Shane Nicholas, Marketing Manager Fender Amplifiers:




X-175B played by Doyle Dykes (accompanied by John Spicer, playing the NH Custom Shop American Patriarch™ X-500 Stuart™):










To be continued with the A-150 Savoy™...
 
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A-150 Savoy™ in Antique Burst finish

For this model Guild recreated the DeArmond Model 1000 Rhythm Chief!
I was reading somewhere else that "the original DeArmond design of the 1000 used: six Alnico V pole pieces, two larger in diameter than the other four. The four pole pieces for the lowest strings were wound together first, then the other two magnets would be inserted and the whole coil would be wound. This resulted in much fewer windings around the B and E strings. DeArmond was known for using very thin wire, ranging in sizes from .38 to .44 gauge." I can't proof that's correct, but I found those details fascinating...

Kim Keller said regarding those pickups: "FMIC owns the DeArmond designs, and they did a dead-nuts repro of the Rhythm Chiefs. They sound just like the old DeArmonds, and that's a very good thing."

The Newark St.™ A-150 Savoy™ features:
- Body Back: Arched Laminated Flame Maple
- Body Sides: Laminated Flame Maple
- Body Top: Arched Solid Spruce (I don't know how that was done, "arched" and "solid")
- Body Finish: Gloss Urethane
- Body Depth: 3.125" (7.9 cm)
- Body Length: 21" (53.34 cm)
- Body Width Lower Bout: 17" (43.2 cm)
- Neck Shape: Vintage Soft "U"
- Fret Size: 6105 (.055" Tall x .090" Wide)
- Position Inlays: Aged Pearloid Blocks
- Fingerboard Radius: 9.45" (240 mm)
- Fretboard: Rosewood
- Neck Material: 3-Piece Mahogany/Maple/Mahogany
- Nut Width: 1.650" (42 mm)
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Neck Pickup: DeArmond® 1000 "Rhythm Chief" Floating Archtop Pickup
- Controls: Pickguard Mounted Volume
- Hardware Finish: Nickel-Plated
- Bridge: Compensated Rosewood with Rosewood Base (according to Mike Lewis it will be delivered also with a second uncompensated bridge!)
- String Nut: Bone
- Pickguard: Opaque Plexi Pickguard with Guild® Logo
- Strings: D'Addario® ECG25 Chromes Flat Wound, Light, (.012-.052 Gauges)

Kim Keller and LTG member "alpep" holding the A-150 Savoy™:

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Nice maple and nice sunburst!

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The Serial number and "Handcrafted in Korea" is written on the back of the headstock.
Also note the special tuning machines: Grover® Sta-Tite™, but mounted from 97 series back with 98 series classic round buttons.

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DeArmond® 1000 "Rhythm Chief" Floating Archtop Pickup:
The volume knob on the pickguard was later changed to two hidden 500kohms control wheels (Volume and Tone) under the pickguard.

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The serial number on the label is still slightly different from the serial number on the headstock! SPG used "KS" (Korea, SPG) as starting letters and the headstock shows "KSG" where G seems to stand for Guild. The label however only shows the KS at the moment. I asked Mike Lewis about it and he said those are the little things that still need to be fixed for serial production, that is only the prototype.

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The A-150 Savoy™ in Blonde finish has the same features like the Antique Burst finish version. Again very nice maple used!

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The flash almost made it a burst top...

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The serial number on the label is again different (missing "G") from the serial number on the headstock, see comment above on busrt model.

Official Guild demo video of the A-150 Savoy™ in Blonde finish




To be continued with the Newark St.™ Starfire™ Bass...
 
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SFIV1967 said:
I have to say they seem to have an amazing build quality! They easily could be US build models looking at the build quality of the displayed prototypes.

This is very good news!

Ralf, thanks so much for taking the time to put together such a thorough report. I enjoyed reading your American Patriarch post too.
 

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SFIV1967 said:
Ralf, hard to find any faults in your post but if you meant to locate the Guild Hoboken factory with the red "X", you have the wrong building. The Neumann Leather building which is where the Guild factory was located, is the "U building to the right of the building with the X.


I posted these photos of the building back in the NAMM Electric thread.

From Bing Maps;

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From Google Earth;

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Here's the latest as to what's going on with the Neumann Leather building;

http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/ ... ann_l.html

http://www.neumanntenants.com/web/index ... 5&Itemid=6


Other then this minor detail, it is a phenomenal thread!
 

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The Ghost Label is a cool touch!
 

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Any one catch the S73 label? I don't need a second one. Dude, how many posts does there need to be to show that we wanted the HB-1 back and they give us minibuckers? I'm sorry, but this fail is as bad as the Dearmond in my opinion. I hate being negative about this.

Jeff
 

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tele4tone said:
Any one catch the S73 label? I don't need a second one. Dude, how many posts does there need to be to show that we wanted the HB-1 back and they give us minibuckers? I'm sorry, but this fail is as bad as the Dearmond in my opinion. I hate being negative about this.

Jeff

I thought I'd be negative about that also but 2 things make me not to be that way:

1) Mini hums might sound great on their own too - we just didn't see/hear a thorough test with them. All we got was some crappy dirty amp video.
2) They might bring in the full sizes HB1s later on. After all these are just prototypes at the moment.

P.S. Great thread, Ralf!
 

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The Guilds of Grot said:
Ralf, hard to find any faults in your post but if you meant to locate the Guild Hoboken factory with the red "X", you have the wrong building. The Neumann Leather building which is where the Guild factory was located, is the "U building to the right of the building with the X.
Kurt, the only problem I have with that is that the building you show only has 4 floors! Hans wrote that Guild was in the 6th floor and later moved to the second floor (or maybe had the 6th and the second). And the only building with 6 floors is the one I marked, or? Well, maybe the one that has "Project Studio" written infront? But the 6 story corner building I marked is also visible in Hans book, have a look there.

This is the one I had marked, it has 6 floors. But it could well be also the one next to it with the black roof (towards that what you called "u-shaped" building). Maybe Hans can clarify?
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Re: NAMM 2013: Newark St.™ Collection electric models

tele4tone said:
Any one catch the S73 label? I don't need a second one. Dude, how many posts does there need to be to show that we wanted the HB-1 back and they give us minibuckers? I'm sorry, but this fail is as bad as the Dearmond in my opinion. I hate being negative about this.

Jeff

Well, on the other hand, they're bringing back Franz pickups, and for guys like me, that's pretty spectacular. I honestly didn't think that was ever going to happen.
 

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Walter Broes said:
tele4tone said:
Any one catch the S73 label? I don't need a second one. Dude, how many posts does there need to be to show that we wanted the HB-1 back and they give us minibuckers? I'm sorry, but this fail is as bad as the Dearmond in my opinion. I hate being negative about this.
Jeff
Well, on the other hand, they're bringing back Franz pickups, and for guys like me, that's pretty spectacular. I honestly didn't think that was ever going to happen.
And the X-175 (and also X-500) sounded great! We listened to the 175 at NAMM when people played her.




Can't say the same yet for the mini humbuckers as there are no videos so far with a clean kind of Blues tone. And I didn't plug a Starfire IV in at NAMM unfortunately...
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Re: NAMM 2013: Newark St.™ Collection electric models

SFIV1967 said:
The Guilds of Grot said:
Ralf, hard to find any faults in your post but if you meant to locate the Guild Hoboken factory with the red "X", you have the wrong building. The Neumann Leather building which is where the Guild factory was located, is the "U building to the right of the building with the X.
Kurt, the only problem I have with that is that the building you show only has 4 floors! Hans wrote that Guild was in the 6th floor and later moved to the second floor (or maybe had the 6th and the second). And the only building with 6 floors is the one I marked, or? Well, maybe the one that has "Project Studio" written infront? But the 6 story corner building I marked is also visible in Hans book, have a look there.

This is the one I had marked, it has 6 floors. But it could well be also the one next to it with the black roof (towards that what you called "u-shaped" building). Maybe Hans can clarify? Or maybe the whole U-shaped building used to have 6 floors and two were broken down on this part of the building?
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Uh-oh! Sounds like I might have stepped in it again!
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I didn't realize that building had the Neumann Leather signage on it. It's been a long time since i was up there. I should probably just delete my other post now but I guess I'll let it ride so people can see there's nothing wrong about being wrong once in a while.

(That's what you get for posting during Super Bowl power outages! :oops: )
 

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The Guilds of Grot said:
Uh-oh! Sounds like I might have stepped in it again!
:lol: No, I didn't want to say that...I obviously don't know, but the 4 floors versus 6 floors was the thing I noticed, so I guess we really need Hans or somebody who worked in Hoboken to tell us which of the soon not longer existing building or buildings it really was.
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Thanks for posting this very informative thread Ralf. :)
 

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Re: NAMM 2013: Newark St.™ Collection electric models

Russian Guy said:
tele4tone said:
Any one catch the S73 label? I don't need a second one. Dude, how many posts does there need to be to show that we wanted the HB-1 back and they give us minibuckers? I'm sorry, but this fail is as bad as the Dearmond in my opinion. I hate being negative about this.

Jeff

I thought I'd be negative about that also but 2 things make me not to be that way:

1) Mini hums might sound great on their own too - we just didn't see/hear a thorough test with them. All we got was some crappy dirty amp video.
2) They might bring in the full sizes HB1s later on. After all these are just prototypes at the moment.

P.S. Great thread, Ralf!

I agree, great thread!

They might sound good, but I don't think it is gonna be used by us hard rock guys. I already have a Starfire with those, I don't need that tone with anything but a Bigsby.

This is me mostly being selfish.
 
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