NAMM 2013: New Guild Custom Shop Orpheum series

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In celebration of Guild’s 60th Anniversary, the iconic American company has officially opened the Guild Custom Shop in New Hartford, Connecticut.

Related to this news a few words about Ren Ferguson.
Ren Ferguson is among the most noted master luthiers in the United States and has been since the 1970s. Many luthiers who wish to follow his style of building have studied his approach to guitar design and building. Ren Ferguson joined Gibson when, in 1986, the company acquired Flatiron Mandolin, where he was head luthier. He was initially hired to run Gibson's factory in Nashville. That plant was later moved to Bozeman, Montana, where Ren also designed the facilities and hired the staff. After 25 years of service to Gibson Guitar's acoustic division, Master Luthier Ren Ferguson had retired from Gibson end of 2011.
Somehow however retirement wasn't his thing yet, so FMIC managed to hire him in 2012. As I see it, he was tasked to build up the acoustic customs shops for both Fender and Guild in New Hartford.
The first Guild guitars he was involved with were the new Doyle Dykes Signature Model in 2012 and the new 60th Anniversary Custom Shop model.
The new Orpheum® Series series is designed by Ron Ferguson!

The GUILD® CUSTOM SHOP in New Hartford showed following new acoustic guitars at NAMM 2013:
- 60th Anniversary Custom Shop
- Orpheum Slope Shoulder 12-Fret Mahogany Dreadnought
- Orpheum Slope Shoulder 14-Fret Mahogany Dreadnought
- Orpheum Slope Shoulder 14-Fret Rosewood Dreadnought
- Orpheum Mahogany Jumbo
- Orpheum Mahogany Orchestra
- Orpheum Rosewood Orchestra

We have discussed the 60th Anniversary Custom Shop model a lot at LTG already, so I concentrate on the new Orpheum® Series.

Now the first question is: Why and what is Orpheum?

Some info I found on the web here:
"ORPHEUM: Instruments previously manufactured in Chicago, IL during the 1930s and 1940s, in Japan during the 1960s, and in Asia, between 2001 and 2006. Instruments Distributed by William L. Lange Company of New York, NY, and by C. Bruno & Son until 1942. Distributed by Maurice Lipsky Music Company, Inc., of New York, NY between 1944 and the early 1970s, by Tacoma Guitars between 2001 and 2004 and by Fender Musical Instruments Corporation between 2005 and 2006. Also see Lange.
The Orpheum trademark goes back to 1901. Orpheum guitars were first introduced by distributor William L. Lange Company of New York in the mid-1930s. The Orpheum brand instruments were also distributed by C. Bruno & Son during this early period. It is estimated that some of the Orpheum models were built in Chicago, IL by the Kay company.
Lange's company went out of business in the early 1940s, but New York distributor Maurice Lipsky resumed distribution of Orpheum guitars circa 1944. The Maurice Lipsky Music Company continued distributing Orpheum guitars, through to the 1960s (see also Domino).
Until more research is done in the Orpheum area, prices will continue to fluctuate. Be very cautious in the distinction between the American models and the later overseas models produced in Japan. "What the market will bear" remains the watchword for Orpheums.
In 2001, Tacoma reintroduced the Orpheum brand name on a line of acoustic instruments. In 2005, when Fender bought Tacoma and related trademarks, Orpheum became only a bluegrass trademark as mandolins, resonators, and banjos were offered. By 2006, Orpheum no longer appeared with Fender the status of the trademark is unknown.
Sources: Tom Wheeler, American Guitars, Orpheum Manufacturing Company catalog courtesy John Kinnemeyer, JK Lutherie."


So FMIC owns the Orpheum brand name.

Hans gave us some additional amazing insider knowledge about some former Guild / Orpheum relationships:

Here are my pictures from NAMM. First the complete Custom Shop acoustic wall:
The logo on the right side regarding the custom shop's first model, and the 60th Anniversary Model opposite on the left side.

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Upper row from left: Orpheum Rosewood Orchestra / Orpheum Slope Shoulder 12-Fret Mahogany Dreadnought / Orpheum Slope Shoulder 14-Fret Mahogany Dreadnought
Lower row from left: Orpheum Jumbo (Mahogany) / Orpheum Mahogany Orchestra / Orpheum Slope Shoulder 14-Fret Rosewood Dreadnought
And very visible : "Designed by Ren Ferguson" !


Larry Thomas (Fender CEO) and Chris Middaugh (Guild Product Manager) selling the Orpheums to dealers:

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Kim Keller's personal opinion about the Orpheum series was:
"The real deal with these guitars is that they are very light and sound awesome. There is almost a total absence of 'bling', and all 6 of those new models we are showing are prototypes. The production guitars likely won't have the blue marquetry on the rosette or back strip, but that may be available - we just don't know yet. I noticed the reaction was either love it or hate it..."
However the people that I talked to found it a "cool" detail!

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The following two videos show Chris Middaugh explaining that they are designed and build like guitars made in the 1930ies.
Chris gave this kind of talk a million times at NAMM I believe! Never mind the few words German in the first one, it goes into English after a few seconds, but gives an excellent overview:






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Now lets have a look into all the 6 new models. (Click on the model names below to get to the Guild webpage.)

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Upper row from left:
Orpheum Rosewood Orchestra / Orpheum Slope Shoulder 12-Fret Mahogany Dreadnought / Orpheum Slope Shoulder 14-Fret Mahogany Dreadnought
Lower row from left:
Orpheum Jumbo (Mahogany) / Orpheum Mahogany Orchestra / Orpheum Slope Shoulder 14-Fret Rosewood Dreadnought
And very visible : "Designed by Ren Ferguson" !

All six models feature:
- Solid Adirondack Red Spruce top
- traditional hot hide-glue construction
- Blue marquetry on the rosette and back strip
- Fingerboard Radius: 12" (305 mm)
- Gotoh® SE700-05M Vintage Style Open-Back with Cream Buttons (Gold-plated for Rosewood, Nickel-plated for Mahogany)
- no TRC, trussrod adjustable from inside soundhole

Orpheum Slope Shoulder 12-Fret Mahogany Dreadnought:

- Available in Natural and Sunburst
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- soft-"V" neck profile
- Nut Width: 1.80" (45.72 mm)
- Nickel-plated hardware

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Video:




Orpheum Slope Shoulder 14-Fret Mahogany Dreadnought:

- Available in Natural and Sunburst
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Nut Width: 1.80" (45.72 mm)
- Nickel-plated hardware

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Demo Video:




Orpheum Slope Shoulder 14-Fret Rosewood Dreadnought:

- Available only in Natural
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Gold-plated hardware

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Orpheum Mahogany Jumbo:

- Available in Natural and Sunburst
- neck with a soft-"V" profile
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Nut Width: 1.80" (45.72 mm)
- Nickel-plated hardware

Chris Middaugh (Guild Product Manager) and Larry Thomas (Fender CEO) selling the Jumbo to dealers:

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Orpheum Mahogany Orchestra:

- Available in Natural and Sunburst
- neck with a soft-"V" profile
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Nut Width: 1.80" (45.72 mm)
- Nickel-plated hardware

Our LTG member Jane (GuildFS4612CE) holding the Orpheum Mahogany Orchestra, behind her the famous Ren Ferguson:

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Orpheum Rosewood Orchestra:

- Available only in Natural
- Scale Length: 24.75" (628 mm)
- Nut Width: 1.80" (45.72 mm)
- Gold-plated hardware

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Chris Middaugh (Guild Product Manager) and Larry Thomas (Fender CEO) selling the Orpheum Rosewood Orchestra to dealers:

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Thanks for the write up Ralf. Great work.

Is there any consensus on what a slope shouldered dread does to the tone compared to a standard dread (if indeed there is meant to be a difference apart from the aesthetics)?
 

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charliea said:
Is the peghead logo silk screened or inlaid? At the price point, you'd expect inlay.
Good eye! It is not inlayed! It is somehow on top of the headstock veneer (you feel it!) but not really silk screened.
I really forgot to ask Ren how he did it.

EDIT: It looks like that was changed sometime during 2013 to a logo which is actually now flush with the surface and under the top coats of nitro, so it looks like inlayed but I am still not sure how it was created.

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Ralf, thanks for the most excellent overview of the Orpheums! Your photos are stellar (especially enjoyed seeing the one of Ren and Jane :)).

I am more excited about playing the Orpheums at Guitar Rez (Austin) as soon as they arrive.

P.S. The burst (all around) is beautiful! Congrats and thanks to Gary, Finish Manager, at the Guild Custom Shop :)
Photo of Gary (right), Finish Manager and Chris (left), Master Luthier, outside the Guild Custom Shop at LMG III, New Hartford, CT.
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P.P.S. Congrats and thanks to the entire Guild team at New Hartford for all the new models.
 

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You know, I know other people have expressed the opposite, but I think the blue marquetry looks WAY better on the burst. It shows up better with the dark background and it looks really nice. Different strokes I guess.....
 

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davismanLV said:
You know, I know other people have expressed the opposite, but I think the blue marquetry looks WAY better on the burst. It shows up better with the dark background and it looks really nice. Different strokes I guess.....
I also liked it on both versions. It was really challenging to take any good and focused pictures, Jane was making fun of me trying to chase her out of the reflections! You still see her reflected in some pictures! :lol: The issue was that they changed the light in the hall constantly from red to blue and white, and all LED based spotlights. They created a somewhat "unreal" light for taking photographs, hence the colors are sometimes not what they would look under day light. And it was pretty dark at most times which increased the noise level on the average camera.
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davismanLV said:
You know, I know other people have expressed the opposite, but I think the blue marquetry looks WAY better on the burst. It shows up better with the dark background and it looks really nice. Different strokes I guess.....

You know Tom, I didn't like it at first, but I'm starting to like it a lot better. Maybe it's Ralf's fine photography! 8)
 

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twocorgis said:
davismanLV said:
You know, I know other people have expressed the opposite, but I think the blue marquetry looks WAY better on the burst. It shows up better with the dark background and it looks really nice. Different strokes I guess.....

You know Tom, I didn't like it at first, but I'm starting to like it a lot better. Maybe it's Ralf's fine photography! 8)
Ralf and I are bringing y'all over to the dark side!! :twisted: :twisted:
 

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I think the new series looks awesome. I know some don't like the burst or the blue, or the Gibson like look, but man I think the look classy, I can't wait to play one....and as long as they sound like a guild... I'll be more than happy! :D Especially with that 12 fret, slope shoulder, Hog dread! :shock: WOW
 

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Memphis said:
...and as long as they sound like a guild... I'll be more than happy!
That's what gtrman100 wrote in his NAMM pictures thread:
gtrman100 said:
I checked out the Fender booth yesterday-good news! ...I played 2 of the Orpheum models, OMG! The 12 and 14 fret models sounded amazing, even in the din of the NAAM show. They had the iconic Guild tone- deep, piano- like bass, bright top end and smooth mid-range. The also had a delicacy that would be great for fingerstyle.
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Everybody likes something different. I think that 'burst is fabulous. Looks Gibson, of course, but IMO Gibson has always had the best 'burst and as they get older and darken, they really look cool!
 
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Oh my gosh! Did anyone else notice the molded/carved letter Gs that were on the tuning pegs!!! THAT is a nice touch. Bravo gentlemen.
 

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theflyingturtle said:
Oh my gosh! Did anyone else notice the molded/carved letter Gs that were on the tuning pegs!!! THAT is a nice touch. Bravo gentlemen.

Those have been seen before on the GSR acoustic guitars and yes it is a nice touch!
 

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theflyingturtle said:
Oh my gosh! Did anyone else notice the molded/carved letter Gs that were on the tuning pegs!!! THAT is a nice touch. Bravo gentlemen.
Thanks for pointing that out! I took the pictures but somehow never noticed! :oops:
Yes, I they are also on my GSR F-30R and some other GSR acoustic models.

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charliea said:
IMO Gibson has always had the best 'burst and as they get older and darken, they really look cool!

Agreed on the aging..... here's what it looks like after 52 years. 8)

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Toni posted this great review from PMC in another topic, but I feel it would fit here very well also:


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