Most surreal... (headstock repair info needed)

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Remember that 1974 sunburst Starfire IV that I bought about a month ago, Ok you probably don't but it was the one I said was the best playing and sounding guitar I have ever played, well I am not sure if I said that, but it is what I thought. It also had finish cracks all over the body, so it seemed to be the perfect player. Well we played a show last night and I figured I would bring her out to get some air. Before we even started our set I was lifting the strap over my head with the guitar, and somehow in the most surreal moment of my life the strap came off the body of the guitar. I'm really not sure what I was doing, but I didn't catch it and it belly flopped directly onto its top. :oops: WOW! I thought that was messed up, I guess I am going to have to re-tune that. It is dark and I pick it up to tune. Hit the E string and the pedal tuner says C. Uh Oh! Looked down and the headstock was broke. :shock: I showed Dane the guitar. :shock: We both kind of looked at each other as if this couldn't be happening. I instantly thought, man I never thought I would actually see this happen, especially on a guild, and even more especially on my favorite Guild. :( So anyway I put the guitar away as soon as possible and tried not to think about while played the show with the S-100. All in all a pretty bad night.
The better news is that the break doesn't look too bad. It was still holding a C note. Looks like a clean break that didn't come all the way through to the front, and there are no vertical cracks going up the headstock.
I am going to repair it my self. I am not sure what else a guy could do besides get the right glue and glue and clamp. I also don't know anything about repairing headstocks. So any advice and opinions would be great. By the way I am also a very firm believer in strap locks now.

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Dreamlander said:
I am going to repair it my self.... I also don't know anything about repairing headstocks. So any advice and opinions would be great.

Hi Dreamlander,

You're right - it looks to be a clean break and a pretty straightforward repair.
Sure you could jam some glue or epoxy in there and clamp it all down but...
it seems you really love this guitar - so why not spread the extra green and have it done confidently?
 

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Ohhh I'm so sorry. Pictures are most disturbing.,
 

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Hi DL; Agree w/ 'Glue; get someone to fix it. No drywall screws!
 

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How much would a headstock repair like this cost? I live in ND, not sure if I know anyone that I could trust anyway with out shipping it, which i don't really want to do. It just seems like it should be an easy fix. I still think I will do it, but I will make a final decision after I do more research on the actual process. I don't have a problem with buying any tools I need since this is something I would like to do in the future.
 

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Yeah that is my one complaint about the old Guilds. Those foolish endpins, be nice if a guy could get someone to make an pin that would fit schaller strap locks.
 

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So it actually did happen. Even after seeing it multiple times last night, I still couldn't believe it. Good luck with the repairs.
 

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Eesh. I'll join the greek chorus and suggest a pro repair. I'd rather practice on junk first and get the technique down before I worked on a guitar I loved.

Ouch, that hurts. :(
 

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holy moley. sorry to see that happen, but yep get thee to a luthier with some mighty clamps and that break will be even more stable than it was before the fall!
 

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UGLY.

So sorry for you DL. I'd be broken-hearted if that happened to one of my guitars.

Gotta agree with the opinions expressed here; get a pro. fix. If you don't get it spot-on, you'll forever be unhappy !
 

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OUCH D-Lander! I feel your pain bro, every players nightmare. Whether you go pro with the repair or tackle it yourself, I'm sure you'll get her back in tip top shape and back on stage where she belongs, that's a beauty. Love that burst.
Regards,
Dan
 

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Well, I think you guys probably convinced me (depending on the price) to take it to a luthier. I don't know anyone in Fargo, but I am going to check around. I just really don't want to ship the guitar, and I am going to be in the cities in a couple weeks so if anyone knows someone in Minneapolis, they should point me in that direction. Does anyone know what a reasonable price for a repair like this would be?

On another note I ran across a website were the guy said he always breaks the headstock completely off and then reglues it. Now that sounds scary. Anyone know if this is common practice.
 

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Dreamlander said:
On another note I ran across a website were the guy said he always breaks the headstock completely off and then reglues it. Now that sounds scary. Anyone know if this is common practice.

ummmmmmmmm............NO!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
 

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That is too sad. what an upsetting thing. Sure, you can do it yourself. If you have excellent guitar repair skills, tools, experience. Otherwise, you might be "practising" on a guitar you really care about. I've seen some of those, and they are even more disturbing than your pics now. Whereas a good pro repair is hard to spot, functionally insignificant. Better luck with this guitar in future.
 
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