Looking for specs and info 1974 Starfire VI

[PapaLeo67]

Cool! That makes me so happy! I hope it turns out better than the previous fiasco. It makes me want to go find that seller and light a bag of poop on his porch. I'm glad the refund came through.

The blondie is super sexy and clean, clean, clean! It's rare that the gold plating is so well-preserved as well. Also, true HB-1s most likely. Just gorgeous. Be sure to post more pics when she arrives. :C)

This is so cool... I got the refund yesterday. I searched reverb last night. He posted it two hours after I searched, and then you pointed it out to me today. Also... I prefer the blonde model. I only bought the sunburst because I didn't think I would find one.
Within 5 MINUTES after I saw your message, I made and offer, he immediately countered, and I immediately accepted.
Talk about meant to be....

When I paid, I asked him to call me. He called and I told him my refund story. He assured me he would fill all gaps in the case to prevent damage from dropping, and has been shipping internationally for years. He knows what he is doing. He is the luthier that set it up.
He also pulled the pickups and verified them. They are both dated in 74.
He said when he received it that he got worried because the gold looked to good. He then verified it was all original.
I am really stoked on this one. Its the one I always wanted. He is shipping Monday, it will be here by end of week!

THANKS AGAIN! This forum is awesome.

 

[PapaLeo67]

Holy Crap... The the Bonfire guy relisted the cracked neck guitar.... with slight changes in description. https://reverb.com/item/39686888-gu...Watcher_Item_Relisted&utm_term=Current Design

 

[jp]

Just came back from him, He says its a terrible fret job, but can easily be redone, and he believes the neck is cracked. Cant say how deep it is without sanding off some finish. Otherwise, it was a beautiful piece. We already started the refund process. I wanted this one really bad. Those pickups sound awesome. I still want to puke!

Holy Crap... The the Bonfire guy relisted the cracked neck guitar.... with slight changes in description. https://reverb.com/item/39686888-guild-starfire-vi-sf-6-1975-cherry-sunburst-original-vintage-usa-bigsby?utm_source=braze&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Watcher_Item_Relisted&utm_term=Current Design

Yeah, I saw that too and noticed he states that the crack is purely superficial, just like him. No change in price, of course. What a scumbag. He deserves more than a flaming bag of poo on his porch.

 

[PapaLeo67]

Yeah, I saw that too and noticed he states that the crack is purely superficial, just like him. No change in price, of course. What a scumbag. He deserves more than a flaming bag of poo on his porch.

Yea, he still says all vintage even though Grovers are new. He did mention the horrible fret job, and he took out my favorite lie, "Been in case since new" There was enough dead skin DNA on the fretboard to clone the original owner.

 

[PapaLeo67]

Yeah, I saw that too and noticed he states that the crack is purely superficial, just like him. No change in price, of course. What a scumbag. He deserves more than a flaming bag of poo on his porch.

By the way, I got that sweet blondie on Friday... It is beautiful. Maybe one of the best condition 1974 SF6s anywhere. I will have to do a NGD post soon. I'm heading out of town for a couple weeks, so maybe next month. THANKS AGAIN!

 

[Rambozo96]

Well what can you do? It was the same song and dance with the wrecked G-37 he sold to me, I returned it because it got damaged in shipping, and some top cracks that I felt was camouflaged in the pics. Not only did it get relisted a few months later but he asked more for it than what I paid lol.

 

[Rambozo96]

But let’s hope this new SF6 is a winner. Dumpsterfires Vintage operated like a shady used car dealer anyway.

 

[Guildedagain]

"Original vintage Guild Starfire 6, in original case, with warranty card. This axe is in gorgeous playing condition, and has been lovingly cared for, refretted, and set up with 10’s. This was guild’s top of the line yacht, with amazing tiger flame, and gold everything. They broke the mold.

The plays like wildfire; crazy fast and perfectly balanced and intonated, frets like new, and those patent guild Humbuckers are loud, gritty, detailed and just wow. You will not find her superior. Cosmetically, she’s very nice indeed, with a yummy vintage patina, and light exterior play and finish wear, including a hairline finish crack (pictured), at the heel, purely superficial. Enjoy!"

Guild has patent humbuckers, or were they merely PAF? ;]

 

[Rambozo96]

"Original vintage Guild Starfire 6, in original case, with warranty card. This axe is in gorgeous playing condition, and has been lovingly cared for, refretted, and set up with 10’s. This was guild’s top of the line yacht, with amazing tiger flame, and gold everything. They broke the mold.

The plays like wildfire; crazy fast and perfectly balanced and intonated, frets like new, and those patent guild Humbuckers are loud, gritty, detailed and just wow. You will not find her superior. Cosmetically, she’s very nice indeed, with a yummy vintage patina, and light exterior play and finish wear, including a hairline finish crack (pictured), at the heel, purely superficial. Enjoy!"

Guild has patent humbuckers, or were they merely PAF? ;]

Just dumb buzz words to make a sale. I think it’s funny he doesn’t include any pics of the frets up close.

 

[Guildedagain]

Who needs pics?

It's a refret in the 1st paragraph, morphing into "frets like new" as in originals by the 2nd.

So you get your choice of each ;]

I had one 70's Starfire, but there won't be another. 9lb 8oz guitar is not for me, it exacerbates my herniated discs or whatever's going on "back there".

Something I learned with the Viking I just picked up, be extremely leery of ads - like this one - with almost zero actual description. The guy was adamant in his ad in all caps "NO RETURNS" yet didn't mention a very cracked pickguard, a cracked neck pickup ring, and other misc things that have to be mentioned so the the buyer can make an informed decision about how much they want to pay for an instrument, and also to avoid unpleasant surprises while inspecting a new arrival.

Guitars are like people, first impressions are almost everything.

 

[Rambozo96]

Who needs pics?

It's a refret in the 1st paragraph, morphing into "frets like new" as in originals by the 2nd.

So you get your choice of each ;]

I had one 70's Starfire, but there won't be another. 9lb 8oz guitar is not for me, it exacerbates my herniated discs or whatever's going on "back there".

Something I learned with the Viking I just picked up, be extremely leery of ads - like this one - with almost zero actual description. The guy was adamant in his ad in all caps "NO RETURNS" yet didn't mention a very cracked pickguard, a cracked neck pickup ring, and other misc things that have to be mentioned so the the buyer can make an informed decision about how much they want to pay for an instrument, and also to avoid unpleasant surprises while inspecting a new arrival.

Guitars are like people, first impressions are almost everything.

People like that will give you the polite version(or verbatim if you’re lucky enough) version of tough . When I sell something I make sure every dent, ding and issue is well addressed. Unfortunately I been running into a lot of sellers like that lately. They like customer service until they get your money.

 

[fronobulax]

Guild has patent humbuckers, or were they merely PAF? ;]

Circa 1970 Guild started making their own pickups. They are generally called "Guild humbucking pickups" in the catalogs.

If you are asking did Guild patent their design, probably not. If you are asking whether Guild used a Gibson pickup or a Gibson designed pickup almost certainly not.

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[Guildedagain]

I'm not asking anything, we're dissecting his ad for the fun of it. This is what we do when we're slightly "bored", i.e. that period - the GAS doldrums - where you're not actively trying to buy a guitar, buying a guitar or waiting for one in the mail, or going through that all too brief "honymoon" phase of having received a new [old] guitar.

Patents or patents applied for, "PAF", have nothing in particular to do with the Gibson company.

Someone throwing terminology around like "patent Guild humbuckers" is just trying to add to the mystique by heaping a little bull honky, and maybe more impotently - pun intended ;] - trying to make it sound like Guild's pickups had something to do with Gibson pickups somehow, and knowing BV, that is surely his intent.

 

[fronobulax]

Well I lost the bubble in that we were dealing with Flaming Old or whatever we are calling THAT dealer As a bassist who only knows what guitarists say about guitar pickups, "PAF" refers to a specific type/design of humbucking pickup. It was designed by Seth Lover and originally used by Gibson. They make a distinction between the originals and PAF-style pickups which can include anything from the same pickup design after the patent was awarded to pickups that licensed the design to pickups that copied the design as close as they could without ending up in court. So "patent Guild" could be a correct description from someone who knows more than I do about Guild's R&D or it could be a suggestion that Guild copied the PAF design as much as they could or it could mean the person didn't know or care what they were talking about. Now that I know who the author is, I think two of those possibilities are extremely unlikely and did not need to ask