Jonesing for a 40 Traditional, D or F?

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I had a 2019 F40AB. As RichardP said, it's a wonderful guitar. Great tone, so easy to fret, and very reasonably priced. I wasn't crazy about the satin finish and didn't like the 17" bout or I'd still own it.
 

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Some sources have an origin story that the term originated from "Keeping up with the Jones" which used to be idiomatic in American English.
Never heard of that etymology. The earliest usage I heard was related to heroin use, used by my bona fide heroin addict father in '71, and is still the only etymological background I can find:

 

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Why buy an Oxford-made guitar when there are so many of the classics from Waverly, RI on the market ?
 

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Try telling that to anyone playing an Eastman instrument.
Or me for that matter, whose Guild is GAD jf30, and is as real as it gets.
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It was just wordplay on the Oxford/Waverly Oxnard/Westerly Series thing, no offense intended sir. :)
 

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It was just wordplay on the Oxford/Waverly Oxnard/Westerly Series thing, no offense intended sir. :)
Adorshki,
I appreciate your reply.
I bought my Guild because it was a maple-bodied jumbo guitar, and the price was right. Had the circumstances been different, it could just as easily been a different brand (except for a Gibson or Epiphone that are just too tastelessly decorated to even contemplate).
And I am very happy with the Guild because I like the sound it produces when I play it.
But beyond that, all the posts on this site about this or that Guild factory site mean nothing to me, and I have no interest in being enlightened about them. I don't pretend to have such a discerning ear that the production location of an instrument matters to me.
I like what I hear from my guitar, and that's all the reality I require.
RBSinTo
 
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Adorshki,
I appreciate your reply.
I bought my Guild because it was a maple-bodied jumbo guitar, and the price was right. Had the circumstances ben different, it could just as easily been a different brand (except for a Gibson or Epiphone that are just too tastelessly decorated to even contemplate).
And I am very happy with the Guild because I like the sound it produces when I play it.
But beyond that, all the posts on this site about this or that Guild factory site mean nothing to me, and I have no interest in being enlightened about them. I don't pretend to have such a discerning ear that the production location of an instrument matters to me.
I like what I hear from my guitar, and that's all the reality I require.
RBSinTo

That's really all that should matter to anyone really. It's all about the sound and if you like what you hear you've got a winner. I will admit that I prefer my Guilds to be the made in the USA type of Guilds but some of the imports, especially the GAD series are quite good.
 

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That's really all that should matter to anyone really. It's all about the sound and if you like what you hear you've got a winner. I will admit that I prefer my Guilds to be the made in the USA type of Guilds but some of the imports, especially the GAD series are quite good.
If I cared about all that minutae, I could spend all my time at the Gibson site listening to them wax poetic and debate about the advantages and disadvantages of this or that diameter string threading holes in various brands of headstock machines, when they are not authoritatively identifying various guitar model's production dates based only on a photo of part of a pickguard. Year, Month. Day. And whether before or after lunch.
Not for me.
I have a 2001 Gibson j45, which has a previously repaired broken headstock.
I strummed it, liked the sound it made, and thought the price was fair, so I grabbed it.
I have no need to know the GPS coordinates of the work bench it was built on. Don't care. I know all I need about it to be happy.
RBSinTo
 

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On the brink . . . might make the buy as early as today. Going to try the F spec.
 

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If I cared about all that minutae, I could spend all my time at the Gibson site listening to them wax poetic and debate about the advantages and disadvantages of this or that diameter string threading holes in various brands of headstock machines, when they are not authoritatively identifying various guitar model's production dates based only on a photo of part of a pickguard. Year, Month. Day. And whether before or after lunch.
Not for me.
I have a 2001 Gibson j45, which has a previously repaired broken headstock.
I strummed it, liked the sound it made, and thought the price was fair, so I grabbed it.
I have no need to know the GPS coordinates of the work bench it was built on. Don't care. I know all I need about it to be happy.
RBSinTo
To give this one a fair and respectful reply, it's not so much about the minutiae for the minutiae's sake (although I admit to being a bit of a cork-sniffer for originality and bling myself), as much as the fact Guild changed their build formulas and model names so often that it becomes necessary in some cases like this one, to get specific about details that may have changed over time.

A fair number of new members need a little education to help 'em understand Guild's model numbers so they understand what to look for or confirm they're on the right track.

Some guys also have a pretty good idea of what they think they're looking for and it helps narrow the chase. :)

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That's really all that should matter to anyone really. It's all about the sound and if you like what you hear you've got a winner. I will admit that I prefer my Guilds to be the made in the USA type of Guilds but some of the imports, especially the GAD series are quite good.
May I humbly offer an alternate approach, that playability has to be at least as important (in my case even more important) than sound.
It's why I bought my D25. I already knew I could get sufficient sound out of just about any guitar, but I didn't know a neck could feel so good until I first tried it. I just knew it was going to help me get to the next level. And it did. :cool:

First guitar I ever owned with spot-on intonation up and down the board and the only dead spots would be me fluffing it. :D

I only really realized how good it sounded when it opened up at about a couple of hundred hours.

The neck sold me on that guitar, I knew nothing about Guild's current models and had just a recommendation from my buddy: "Y'oughta check out Guild. Fender just bought 'em."

I was looking to replace a stolen MIK Fender flattop with something worth re-fretting instead of replacing every few years, wanted new with warranty and wanted US-built for intrinsic value. Much like cars, Asian guitars don't get much respect on the collector's market.

(But I loved my 5 first-gen RX-7's to death over 15 years. Just to make clear I'm as open-minded as anybody when it comes to Asian quality. ;))

Bottom line after all that is I don't care how good it sounds if I can't play it. And I got my limitations these days. :cry:
 

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May I humbly offer an alternate approach, that playability has to be at least as important (in my case even more important) than sound.

If you can't or don't play it then it doesn't matter what it sounds like.

But if you don't like the sound then you won't play it.

I sense a chicken and egg type dilemma .

I will observe that, for a non electric instrument, some playability issues can be fixed while changing the sound has less options once you have gotten tired of switching strings.
 
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