In Praise of the DV-52

[Mr. P ~]

Great story DB.

Life can be great for a sound man that works a band where all the members know how to work with a microphones polar paterns and frequency response paterns.

Most engineers want the musician to be rock solid and never move so he/she (the engineer) has full control. However, personally I love working with a band that understands acoustics and microphone characteristics!!

Glad you had an enjoyable show!! 8)

 

[HoboKen]

And to think this all started by asking how to mic a DV-52!

Anyway.....I love to go back to five or six players moving in and out to one mic! But our bluegrass group is eleven players strong and all sing. Most stages we have to spread out across the front to get us all there. If we all started moving around, we'd look like the old June Taylor dancers and someone would get hurt! When only five or six of us can make it and we don't have an engineer with us, we revert back to using the AKG C-3000bs and move in and out to the two mics put back to back. My youngest son is also an up & coming sound engineer - class c-b now. How many kids in high school can say the worked monitor world for a lot of pro stages? (with his older borther) He usually does our sound when we are eleven strong in Bluegrass.....using Shure Sm-57s for the instruments and either Sm-58s or Senn. 835s for the voices. The 835s seem to give a little less feed -back attitude.

........And then there are times now I just take my pop-up camper and the ole" Passport 250 system with me to a week-end bluegrass camp-out. Ah! The simple life again!....Gettysburg, Arcadia, Carlisle, Laurel Highlands......

 

[HoboKen]

And to think this all started by asking how to mic a DV-52!

Anyway.....I love to go back to five or six players moving in and out to one mic! But our bluegrass group is eleven players strong and all sing. Most stages we have to spread out across the front to get us all there. If we all started moving around, we'd look like the old June Taylor dancers and someone would get hurt! When only five or six of us can make it and we don't have an engineer with us, we revert back to using the AKG C-3000bs and move in and out to the two mics put back to back. My youngest son is also an up & coming sound engineer - class c-b now. How many kids in high school can say the worked monitor world for a lot of pro stages? (with his older borther) He usually does our sound when we are eleven strong in Bluegrass.....using Shure Sm-57s for the instruments and either Sm-58s or Senn. 835s for the voices. The 835s seem to give a little less feed -back attitude.

........And then there are times now I just take my pop-up camper and the ole" Passport 250 system with me to a week-end bluegrass camp-out. Ah! The simple life again!....Gettysburg, Arcadia, Carlisle, Laurel Highlands......

 

[SmithfieldFair]

The Men

Ken -- 11 players - Wow! That reminds me of singer/songwriter/guitarist Jules Alexander's story about the formation of "The Men" - 13 guys on stage together at the Troubador in LA. They were the first "folk rock" band - a term coined by their manager at the time - the Troubador's own Doug Weston. It was a wild experiment in 1964-65, short-lived, but pushed the limits of what was considered "folk" at the time. That band spawn....the Association, with founding members Alexander, Terry Kirkman (Cherish), Russ Giguere, Brian Cole and Ted Bleuchel. They would take one other member from the men - Bob Page, but within weeks, he would be replaced by Jim Yester. 13 guys on stage...you need just 2 more. Ha! What mayhem that could be at times. Talk about June Taylor Dancers - you guys would be dancing on top of each other.

Hey, want me to hold that Guild while you dance? dbs

Dudley-Brian Smith
Smithfield Fair

 

[SmithfieldFair]

The Men

Ken -- 11 players - Wow! That reminds me of singer/songwriter/guitarist Jules Alexander's story about the formation of "The Men" - 13 guys on stage together at the Troubador in LA. They were the first "folk rock" band - a term coined by their manager at the time - the Troubador's own Doug Weston. It was a wild experiment in 1964-65, short-lived, but pushed the limits of what was considered "folk" at the time. That band spawn....the Association, with founding members Alexander, Terry Kirkman (Cherish), Russ Giguere, Brian Cole and Ted Bleuchel. They would take one other member from the men - Bob Page, but within weeks, he would be replaced by Jim Yester. 13 guys on stage...you need just 2 more. Ha! What mayhem that could be at times. Talk about June Taylor Dancers - you guys would be dancing on top of each other.

Hey, want me to hold that Guild while you dance? dbs

Dudley-Brian Smith
Smithfield Fair

 

[West R Lee]

Hey Guys,

I just take my glass of wine....or two, go back into my own little music room with my Shure SM-57 and my Roland AC-60, and the more wine that goes down the hatch, the better I sound! I've even impressed myself a time or two.................usually after a third glass. That's my limit....3 glasses. Anyway, the only complaint I've ever gotten was from this little blonde woman that lives here for the occasional feedback! 8)

West

 

[West R Lee]

Hey Guys,

I just take my glass of wine....or two, go back into my own little music room with my Shure SM-57 and my Roland AC-60, and the more wine that goes down the hatch, the better I sound! I've even impressed myself a time or two.................usually after a third glass. That's my limit....3 glasses. Anyway, the only complaint I've ever gotten was from this little blonde woman that lives here for the occasional feedback! 8)

West

 

[Jeff]

DV 62

I recently picked up a DV 62 for 800. Really nice guitar,

I can not find any info on this guitar. Does anyone know what the difference between the DV 52, DV62 & DV 72

 

[Jeff]

DV 62

I recently picked up a DV 62 for 800. Really nice guitar,

I can not find any info on this guitar. Does anyone know what the difference between the DV 52, DV62 & DV 72

 

[West R Lee]

Hey Jeff,

I think all were considered somewhat limited editions....some more limited than others. I have a DV-52 and DV-72. The differences between the two are that the DV-52 has an abalone rosette, the DV-72 has a turquoise rosette, fretmarkers and Guild logo. The DV-52 has gold Grover tuners. The DV-72 also has silver Grover Imperial tuners and a routed headstock with a gold pinstripe. The DV-72 also has a herringbone binding and center stripe down the back. Both are Indian rosewood guitars and sound extremely good in my opinion. The action on my DV-72 has been lowered and is incredibly easy to play.

I have pictures of a DV-73 and think it is one of the most beautiful guitars I've ever seen. It has a little wider rosette than my 72 and along with the turquiose, it has red coral and onyx inlaid in all of the places that the 72 has just the turquoise. Other than that, the 72 and 73 are the same guitar.

I've never seen a 74 or 76............or a 62 for that matter......been trying to find pictures of these for years I'd love to see a picture of your DV-62.

West

 

[West R Lee]

Hey Jeff,

I think all were considered somewhat limited editions....some more limited than others. I have a DV-52 and DV-72. The differences between the two are that the DV-52 has an abalone rosette, the DV-72 has a turquoise rosette, fretmarkers and Guild logo. The DV-52 has gold Grover tuners. The DV-72 also has silver Grover Imperial tuners and a routed headstock with a gold pinstripe. The DV-72 also has a herringbone binding and center stripe down the back. Both are Indian rosewood guitars and sound extremely good in my opinion. The action on my DV-72 has been lowered and is incredibly easy to play.

I have pictures of a DV-73 and think it is one of the most beautiful guitars I've ever seen. It has a little wider rosette than my 72 and along with the turquiose, it has red coral and onyx inlaid in all of the places that the 72 has just the turquoise. Other than that, the 72 and 73 are the same guitar.

I've never seen a 74 or 76............or a 62 for that matter......been trying to find pictures of these for years I'd love to see a picture of your DV-62.

West

 

[sfIII]

New DV-52 for me.

Just bought one off of E-bay. Looks like its in good shape. If everythink I hear here is correct, I've sure I'll be very pleased.

 

[carson17912]

guild dv-52 a sure winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been addressing this topic on the pluses and negatives of various acoustics. I use this guitar quite a bit and my professional recording friends think thi model is a sure winner in tone and construction . you can't buy a better guitar. carson

 

[gretschbigsby]

SFIII... any report?

I was playing mine some this morning. Is there anything that this model can't do?

 

[Darryl Hattenhauer]

West,

Whatcha mean "routed headstock"?

 

[West R Lee]

Darryl,

I don't think it's really routed. I think it's a couple of layers laminated one on top of the other. The top layer being slightly smaller gives the appearance of a tooled groove around the edge of the headstock. To be honest, I'm not really sure how they did that, however it is just like the edging around the headstock of the D-100 that is now listed on Ebay. That should give you an idea of what I am talking about.

West

 

[Darryl Hattenhauer]

Now I got it. They ought to do that more often.

Buy the whey, I love Guild's Big G, but not their chesterfield. Hey! I just came up with two new nicknames: Big G, and Chester Field.

 

[West R Lee]

:lol:

 

[David_Currie]

I was wondering what the difference between the DV-52 and the D-52 is. My 1993 D-52 has a herringbone rosette, but I've seen a 1993 DV-52 that also had a herringbone rosette (the DV-52 went to an abalone rosette in later years). The only cosmetic difference is the heel cap on them: the D-52 uses the "old style Epiphone" heel-cap (heels/heel-caps are described in the Guild Guitar Book) which is more rounded and tapers to 2/3 the width of the neck, while the DV-52 uses the regular flatter Guild heel-cap that is the full width of the neck. In some other forum Hans Moust said there were other differences between the D-52 and the DV-52, so I'm wondering what they are. Perhaps the bracing or bridge plates are different?

THANKS!

 

[hansmoust]

I was wondering what the difference between the DV-52 and the D-52 is. My 1993 D-52 has a herringbone rosette, but I've seen a 1993 DV-52 that also had a herringbone rosette (the DV-52 went to an abalone rosette in later years).

Hello Dave,

I assume you meant to say you have a 1983 D-52.
The DV-52 from the '90s and the D-52 from the '80s share some of the typical cosmetic features but they're not the same guitar. The '90s guitar was made after a time period during which a lot of design changes were implemented. It's too much to explain on a forum like this but I will go into it in Part 2 of The Guild Book.
To make things a little more confusing I should add that the earliest DV-52s from the '90s were labeled D-52 but apart from some cosmetic differences they are basically the same guitars as the ones that were labeled DV-52 and that were built a little later.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust