How do the Hoboken Guitars stack up

capquest

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I see comparisons between all the various Gild factories but I've never seen a comparison with the Hoboken made Guilds.

Any thoughts?
 

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I don't think there are that many left, comparatively speaking. Keep in mind that Guild didn't build in Hoboken for that long compared to the 30 or so years they built in Westerly. I would think too that during that time frame, manufacturing techniques weren't condusive to a large volume of guitars being built. Just aren't that many of them around, but those who've got 'em love 'em.

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Hey, cap,

Do you have a copy of Hans Moust's book ("The Guild Guitar Book")? If not, you must get one.

He covers this period of the company's history. A few of the top Guild supervisors from Hoboken made the transition to Westerly to get the plant working efficiently and ramp up production levels. This was around 1969. It's a great read, by the way, and horribly tragic with Al Dronge's death shortly after the move (if I recall right).

West may be right about the numbers, but quite a few different models were already in the Guild line-up before the transition to Westerly. There was apparently tremendous creativity in the Hoboken and NY years.
 

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West,

I know that to be true. When mine was being built I was living in New Hope Pa. which is only 50 miles from NYC and I vaguely remember going to Hoboken to see the instrument being built. When my friend bought it for me they told us that it would be built on a custom basis. I actually waited a few months for it.

As I remember the parts and pieces of three guitars were being stored in a large cabinet and being built by one man. I THINK his name was Rimarez or something like that. Anyway, it was not really what you would call a factory.

A few years later I visited Nazareth and the Martin factory was a much bigger place.

BTW. Someone at Guild told me that one of the other F50s in that cabinet went to Dave VanRonk. Who know? It was 1966.

Cap
 

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Cap, your guitar is very special, and really speaks to the creativity of the Hoboken years. I don't know if Guild ultimately was able to occupy more of the Hoboken building during their stay there, but Hans says they started there with around 6000 sq ft! Talk about a sweat shop!!! :)
 

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capquest said:
I see comparisons between all the various Gild factories but I've never seen a comparison with the Hoboken made Guilds.

Any thoughts?

My 1964 D-40 was made in Hoboken and has aged into a real killer guitar-- loud with tone to spare and that great old dry sound.

Tres
 

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Tres said:
capquest said:
I see comparisons between all the various Gild factories but I've never seen a comparison with the Hoboken made Guilds. Any thoughts?
My 1964 D-40 was made in Hoboken and has aged into a real killer guitar-- loud with tone to spare and that great old dry sound. Tres
Hi capquest; I have a '66 Hoboken F212 that has the coppery, highly-colored harmonics that are the signature of Guild mahogany guitars and characteristic of most older guitars. I've also owned a '72 F30, a '73 F48, and an '80 F412, all Westerlys but no Westerly F212 so I can't make a direct comparison but I think any Hoboken with a straight neck is worth owning. CJ
 

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Tres, I also have a 1964 D-40. How is yours braced? Just curious. I also have a 1954 F-40,first year for Guilds I believe.

Lee
 

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creeksideguy said:
... I also have a 1954 F-40, first year for Guilds I believe.
Hi Lee; apologies if you've posted them before but do you have any pics of the F-40? Would be pleasure to see what it looks like. CJ
 

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creeksideguy said:
I think it is actually a 1953, I`ll check the serial number again.

Lee

Hello Lee,

If I remember correctly you have a model from 1954, which would be the first year for a Guild flat top .......... and obviously not a Hoboken made one!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl
 

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Hi Hans, I think I sent you the pictures of the F-40, If you still have them would you mind adding them to this thread? Also I checked last night and it is a 1954.

Thanks Hans,

Lee
 
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