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Hi Dennis: Navarre is a province in France ... although as Graham has pointed out, it could be a drunken pirate's pronounciation of the word: "Never". Le livre d'Hans (page 115) indicates the early F-50 was called the 'Navarre' (or 'Never' in Piratese) and the F-40 the 'Valencia' ... not to be confused with the orange of the same name but I'd think that phonetically (language of the ancient Phoenicians), something like 'Nuh Var' with accent on the second syllable would be pretty close.
 

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capnjuan said:
something like 'Nuh Var' with accent on the second syllable would be pretty close.

Thanks John. Kinda like the first pronunciation in the link I posted. Not the second, or French pronunciation with the remnants of Buckley's cough syrup going down the pipe.
 

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Graham said:
capnjuan said:
something like 'Nuh Var' with accent on the second syllable would be pretty close.
Thanks John. Kinda like the first pronunciation in the link I posted. Not the second, or French pronunciation with the remnants of Buckley's cough syrup going down the pipe.
Oui ... that 'cough syrup' thing was the difference between an A and a B dans l'école secondaire classe française.

a votre sante ...

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capnjuan said:
something like 'Nuh Var' with accent on the second syllable would be pretty close.

More like "naah" on the first syllable. And "varre" as in "barre" chord - if you can get a bit of elongation on the "r" sound, stretch it out so it sounds softer than a hard "car", like the roll of a good set of Harley pipes, it will be even closer.
 

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Metalman said:
capnjuan said:
something like 'Nuh Var' with accent on the second syllable would be pretty close.

More like "naah" on the first syllable. And "varre" as in "barre" chord - if you can get a bit of elongation on the "r" sound, stretch it out so it sounds softer than a hard "car", like the roll of a good set of Harley pipes, it will be even closer.

Whoops, Metalman, accidentally rewrote your message in there - apologies, sloppy fingers only, no intention.
 

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Metalman said:
More like "naah" on the first syllable. And "varre" as in "barre" chord - if you can get a bit of elongation on the "r" sound, stretch it out so it sounds softer than a hard "car", like the roll of a good set of Harley pipes, it will be even closer.
Hi Dennis: closer to what?? I dig the continental thing but if you walked into Matt Romanov's, Mandolin Broz, or New Hope and asked for a Guild (roughly phoenician) Naah-va-ruh ... well ... I'm not sure what they'd bring out ... :D
 

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capnjuan said:
Hi Dennis: closer to what?? I dig the continental thing but if you walked into Matt Romanov's, Mandolin Broz, or New Hope and asked for a Guild (roughly phoenician) Naah-va-ruh I don't know what you'd get.

Sorry, cj, that was me overwriting Dennis's message, my bad.

And my suggestion wasn't very clear - I didn't mean "va-ruh", like a whole extra syllable, just trying in my clumsy way to suggest a little softening of the final "r" sound, so it doesn't just clip off short - like that Harley far away as it disappears at last. Don't know phonetic jargon, but in synthesizer talk, you'd look for a longer release time at the end of the word.
 

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john_kidder said:
... Don't know phonetic jargon, but in synthesizer talk, you'd look for a longer release time at the end of the word.
Hi John ... as you know, the Phoenicians have been gone for some time and their obscure language is now oddly only found in brackets in dictionaries ... If this is a question, it seems to be whether the word, when spoken, should / ought to be composed of two syllables or three. Although I have a Minor in English and taken considerably more Francais than I care to remember, I have never met a Phoenician ........ with or without a motorcycle. Best. John
 

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A Phoenician on a motorcycle is a fearsome fantasy.
... as is a Caananite in a chariot ... Two (deux au Canada) syllables it is. J
 

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[/quote] Hi Dennis: closer to what?? I dig the continental thing but if you walked into Matt Romanov's, Mandolin Broz, or New Hope and asked for a Guild (roughly phoenician) Naah-va-ruh ... well ... I'm not sure what they'd bring out ... :D[/quote]

That's why I always pronounce it "F-50."

Brad
 
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