mellowgerman
Senior Member
mgod, i would like to thank you for making my day.
And I'd jump on it but I'd have to change the pickup for it to be useful to me, and that would be a shame.The Guilds of Grot said:
Links to a video of the Monkees lip synching "Sometimes Love is Only Sleeping". Peter Tork's Jet Star is visible often. The site, so far as I can tell, did not try to do anything undesirable to my computer.bklynbass said:
So tell us about the bass in your avatar? I'd guess it left the factory as a M-85 I prior to 1970, perhaps as early as '67. Bridge PU was added and doesn't look like the post 1970 Guild humbucker, but what can I tell at 100x100 pixels? The thumb and finger rests allow for a lot of informed speculation :wink:
mgod said:
bklynbass said:Looks the same to me. Check the g side of the harp bridge.
Thanks. I have seen several pictures of a Bisonic at the neck and "something else" at the bridge but yours are the first examples I have seen where the "something else" was actually the Guild humbucker that became the standard bass PU by 1971.bklynbass said:That's what I originally thought, but according to several authorities on the subject, in 1970 Guild put out a lot of basses with mixed pickups due to the fact that the Hagstrom Bi-Sonics were no longer in production.
Who are your authorities? Hans Moust, author of The Guild Guitar Book posts a lot on LTG. I suspect he would be interested in the basses you posted, if he doesn't have them in his database already.
I wondered if it was a conversion because the vast majority of factory 2 PU basses did not have the thumb and finger rests whereas many of the conversions do. However my knowledge is strongest for Starfires and I have learned that what is true for Starfires does not necessarily hold true for M-85's.
I'm in agreement. Given all the weird things that came out of Guild in 1970 - weird with regard to actually matching catalog specifications, that is - it makes a whole lot of sense that M-85 I's were factory converted to IIs. I will note that they had to move the treble finger rest towards the neck, but that is a case of drilling one more hole. Grot's and every other M-85 I I have seen has the rests staggered.bklynbass said:Based on what I've been told, essentially they ARE conversions, just done at the factory - presumably, since the rests were already on there, they kept them on.